Setting up MIDI and fmgen core

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Setting up MIDI and fmgen core

Opened this issue 4 years ago · 9 comments

Hi, I've been trying Touhou 2 and 3 with RetroArch and the NP2kai core. The performance is very good compared to the standard Neko Project 2 fmgen build, though I still get a stutter here and there.

Anyway, I am using Sound Canvas VA with LoopMIDI and have made this my primary MIDI playback device with the MIDIMapper Configurator. In Neko Project 21 W I am able to set up a MIDI Out device through the menu settings in the taskbar at the top, but NP2kai does not have this option. Is there a way to select my MIDI Out device?

I have also noticed that the sound quality is not as good in NP2kai as in the Neko Project 2 fmgen version here: http://nenecchi.kirara.st/. The start-up sound for Touhou 2 and many sound effects in both Touhou 2 and 3 sound very tinny. Neko Project 21 W has a similar problem for me. Can I choose a different FM core like those in the FM DLL set from that link above? Thanks for your help!

Answer 1 · 2020-09-06T04:18:04.000Z

Sorry to slooow replying!
NP2kai core is not support MIDI device.
But, implementation is already set.

I'll more check functions.

Thanks!

Edit:
I checked with enable log on Windows 10.
[ERROR] [MIDI]: midiStreamOut failed with error 11.
is outputed. Device is initialized.
This is maybe cause by RetroArch?

Edit 2:
I don't plan to choose FM module now.
(On RetroArch, core cannot call DLL module.)
But I'll check listening sound of Touhou 2 and 3.

Answer 2 · 2020-10-09T16:59:05.000Z

@AZO234 I've taken a look at some sound settings and recorded videos to show more clearly what differences I'm talking about with the sound effects. The first video is from np2fmgen, and I believe this is what the game should sound like. The second video is using the np2kai core with RetroArch, and you will notice the laser sound effect and the Touhou 2 start up noise are very distorted. I've also attached pictures of the sound settings for both. I hope it's not too hard to figure out the problem. Thanks!

https://youtu.be/WfUddRA0Jz8

https://youtu.be/SQC3TS8m1Dw

Answer 3 · 2020-11-04T03:37:12.000Z

@AZO234 Hi, is there any update on the sound effect issues? If it is just a matter of tweaking the settings then that's fine as well.

Answer 4 · 2020-11-05T06:22:27.000Z

Oh, sorry.
Could you check to RetroArch's menu?
'Configure' -> 'Audio' -> 'MIDI'

Answer 5 · 2020-11-05T14:13:26.000Z

Okay, but I was more concerned with the Touhou 3 sound effects (like Marisa's laser) not sounding right in NP2kai. Were you able to view the videos I linked two posts up?
https://youtu.be/WfUddRA0Jz8
https://youtu.be/SQC3TS8m1Dw

If I try to change the MIDI input or output devices it wants me to type in something. I cannot simply select a device from my computer.

Answer 6 · 2020-11-15T13:23:28.000Z

@AZO234 Sorry to trouble you again but I just want to know if the Touhou 2-3 sound effects can be fixed by adjusting settings. Please check the short videos I posted above that show the issue. Thank you!

Answer 7 · 2020-12-15T13:09:51.000Z

I am using Windows 10 RetroArch NP2Kai

Game: https://koei.fandom.com/wiki/Band-kun

Game has MIDI settings (below)
RetroArch has MIDI driver (Windows, not Mac version)
But I do not hear any sound after system beep?

Is there any hope?

Answer 8 · 2021-01-14T02:23:17.000Z

My business is jamed. Sorry to reply very slow.
I could check MIDI sound play on Windows 10 + RetroArch Nightly.

@gingerbeardman
Some music composer software has them original settings.
NP2kai has simply MIDI IN/OUT. And command maybe invalidate.

@GIN5
I'll check soon. Probably fmgen issue.
I'll tune code and generators volumes.
(No relationship to MIDI function.)

Answer 9 · 2021-01-14T10:19:40.000Z

I managed to get it to work only under Windows standalone NP2Kai. Cheers