A few Questions

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A few Questions

Jean-Baptiste-Lasselle opened this issue 4 years ago · 3 comments

Jean-Baptiste-Lasselle commented 4 years ago

I am pretty sure you have no issues like that opened yet.

This is a (Bug Report/ And a question)

🎩 Description

For bug reports:

What went wrong? see the link I provided, to a page WHere I detailed every single problematic aspect.
What did you expect should have happened? see the link I provided, to a page Where I detailed every single exptectations aspect.
What was the config you used? also fully mentioned in ccc
What stacktrace or error message from your provider did you see? Are you talking about the Ethereum Service Provider ?

For feature proposals:

That this software provides actual sovereignty, as it claims to, to its users, starting with ginving them a way to provision a full, privately owned, and functional Ethereum Blockchain. Or that you strip out of the project a technology that makes its users dependent on non open source, proprietary service.
There are proprietary, SAAS Kubernetes, yet everyone in this world can build from source and provision, a fully private, operational Kubernetes Cluster. Blockchain is not more complex than Kubernetes. So no excuse there.

📌 Related issues

none

📋 Additional Data

The link mentioned above : https://github.com/pokusio/le-defi/blob/master/the-broken-list/democracy-earth/README.md

Et bon courage.

Answer 1 · 2020-07-05T17:30:32.000Z

We changed our servers to deploy the dapp in our main domain during the time you were playing with our software. You can check the whole thing on democracy.earth

The /blockchain project was simply an exploration as a side project we did many years ago, you should realize that. It's not even featured on our github page.

If you think Ethereum is not real open source because it turns out there are services out there in the market that can help you with the heavy-lifting, I won't ever bother arguing such stupid claims, happy to debate them on crypto twitter tho.

Everyone builds their own sovereignty, if you need us to build it for you seems clear you don't understand the concept.

Regarding your french feelings, c'est la vie. Our research is on the paper.democracy.earth repo. Our core focus is regarding formalization of human identity over decentralized networks. Would be nice if you bothered to actually read it.

Answer 2 · 2020-07-08T08:31:18.000Z

Well, sovereignty starts with own the software you use , especially when this software is acountable for the main feature of a platfrom : voting. So, Would you state in your public vieos, taht the best way for Argentina, to be sovereign, is to vote using an Ethereum Service operated by Jan-Baptiste Lassellle in France ? I would rather say Argentinian people, you must own the machines that operates your votes.
So that why your software is far from bringing sovereignty, on the contrary, it makes people dependent on https://infura.io , and you are the best person to tell them, in a beautiful video like you did before, who is infura.io, and who owns this company, the servers, and why the argentinian should use those server's to vote, instead of a private Ethereum that would legally be their property : so that if someones hacks it, they can complain to justice, just like for a robbery.
I just dared you to show me how to deploy a prtivate Ethereum Blockchain, if you don't feel like answering this challenge, c'est la vie. I stated, in the repo I mentioned, that as of today, II am a pretty serious professional I believe, or a thief, considering my wage, and have never seen anyone in my life spawn up a privat Etheruem Blockchain, fully functional.

Picking up De Gaulle to make a joke I believe, was the worst idea you could have. Ask the americans.

Answer 3 · 2020-07-08T08:37:56.000Z

ps: Ouh, and about your https://democracy.earth/ :

I tested while I wrote my paper on your organization on github, as I reported im my paper, it was down, and is still down (hey click on it, at least, it just does not do anything, just "loading dependencies" message forever) // at https://democracy.earth is down (tested with firefox 68.9.0esr (64-bit) on debian ) :

*and it's actually the same result today...

update :
- below I was mistaking, since the outdated component is the old https://github.com/DemocracyEarth/blockchain repo , that @santisiri says is outdated, so I keep the mention for the sake of ethics).
- Never the less, this just confirms, but is already confirmed by @santisiri that https://github.com/DemocracyEarth/ github org does not provide anyone, with the means to provision and ooperate a fully owned private blockchain. Unacceptable for a software named sovereign, and given the many "revolutionary" talks Mr. Siri gives here and there, and publishes on social medias, to people that have no means to check what I checked technically, and has the highest impact on actual sovereignty.

oh it's outdated, so what's the purpose of the 3 days ago Mobile app release ...? I mean, you should write in the release notes "Hey guys, this a brand new mobile release, that is completely outdated, go test it on your phone, don't wait!"

Anyway, I will stop this conversation here, I think all my points were clearly made, and you are perfectly free not to answer any. I just believe in making to the public clear, different opinions between professionals, they have both and they make their decisions.