Research on people not found in Wikidata
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Hi everyone! In working on this project, I have come across a few names that I was not able to find in Wikidata. Probably these people were obscure or not as well known as the others. I propose adding the following names and road names in this thread as an organizing point for others (who know the local history better) to do research. The aim would be to make a bare-bones Wikidata entry in order to obtain an Q# that can be added in the new tag to complete the challenge.
Name: Edouard-Payot
Road: Rue Edouard-Payot
Status: under investigation by @eginhard
potential match: http://www.fifres-tambours-lausanne.ch/pages/historique.php
Name: Robert de Menthon
Road: Avenue Robert de Menthon
Status: under investigation by @eginhard
Name: François-de-Lucinge
Road: Chemin François-de-Lucinge
Potential match but not sure: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q75359488
I find some mentions of Edouard Payot as directeur du Collège Classique Cantonal, e.g. http://www.fifres-tambours-lausanne.ch/pages/historique.php
Henri-Antoine de Crousaz should be https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q106713756 (via https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabelle_de_Montolieu)
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famille_de_Menthon mentions a Robert de Menthon who could fit.
I'll try to see if the street signs mention any dates or other info.
Henri-Antoine de Crousaz should be https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q106713756 (via https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabelle_de_Montolieu)
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Name: Jaques-Larguier des Bancels
Road: Chemin Jaques-Larguier des Bancels
Name: Moille Saugeon
Road: Chemin de Moille Saugeon
Comment: I am pretty sure that this is indeed a person but I have yet to find any information
Name: Chemin de Pierre Ozaire
Road: Chemin de Pierre Ozaire and Route de Pierre Ozaire
Comment: According to this, the name origin is unknown
Road: Rue Philippe-François-de-Langallerie
Comment: I made this Wikidata entry after finding this geni.com page. I therefore added it to the road name. Can someone confirm that this looks good?
Seems fine and also matches https://web.archive.org/web/20200628185514/https://lumieres.unil.ch/fiches/bio/733/. I just added basic descriptions to the wikidata entry (I'm completely new to wikidata, but the descriptions and dates are shown in the popup cards on https://lausanne.equalstreetnames.eu, so are very useful).
Road: Chemin de Pierre-de-Plan
Comment: According to this, the person might be a saint. As such, I think a general rule would be not to add road names with biblical/mythical persons. What do you think?
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Road: Chemin de Pierre Ozaire and Route de Pierre Ozaire
Comment: According to this, the name origin is unknown
I assume these roads are named after the stream Pierre Ozaire that appears to be nearby, regardless after what the stream is named. A wikidata entry for the stream could be added and it doesn't seem to be on OSM yet either.
Road: Chemin de Moille Saugeon
Comment: I am pretty sure that this is indeed a person but I have yet to find any information
From what I can find a nearby clearing is called Moille Saugeon: https://www.randosources.ch/de/excursions/3/extras/3/
Jaques-Larguier des Bancels
I'll hide comments that are resolved for an easier overview of the remaining ones.
Name: Edouard-Payot Road: Rue Edouard-Payot
After surveying, I created and tagged https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q108885080
Name: François-de-Lucinge Road: Chemin François-de-Lucinge
Potential match but not sure: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q75359488
After surveying, I created and tagged https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q108884961
Name: Robert de Menthon Road: Avenue Robert de Menthon
I could not find further details on this one on the street signs.