🎵 Arrows in Arrows in Arrows

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🎵 Arrows in Arrows in Arrows

TodePond opened this issue 2 years ago · 68 comments

Answer 1 · 2023-02-15T11:51:43.000Z

Tree of Fame time

Answer 2 · 2023-02-15T14:29:53.000Z

Tree of Fame done

Habitat time!!

Answer 3 · 2023-02-17T11:06:52.000Z

Working on some state management stuff for habitat, and did a cleanup

Answer 4 · 2023-02-22T18:14:54.000Z

Habitat updated

now big change coming

Answer 5 · 2023-02-22T18:20:53.000Z

Renamed ArrowRoost to Arroost

Answer 6 · 2023-02-22T19:44:15.000Z

I got some barebones structure going

and deployed at https://incandescent-kitten-32f1ef.netlify.app/

Answer 7 · 2023-02-26T15:32:44.000Z

I did some more updates to habitat

Answer 8 · 2023-03-22T15:42:12.000Z

BIG UPDATES TO HABITAT NOW IM BACK

Answer 9 · 2023-03-22T15:44:52.000Z

I added a todo list of things to R+D

Answer 10 · 2023-03-29T08:56:47.000Z

Figured out all the arrows - now changed to list of things to code. Here we go!

Answer 11 · 2023-04-16T13:31:10.000Z

just a lil update: Arrow of Creation is going

Now working on Recording + Noise

Answer 12 · 2023-04-17T18:45:59.000Z

Make Noise go behind the Recording.
Make Noise double-ended.
Make Recording a circle button.

Answer 13 · 2023-04-19T16:51:15.000Z

Moved em to issues

Answer 14 · 2023-04-26T16:07:41.000Z

Updated the script! based on more train work

Answer 15 · 2023-05-10T14:04:47.000Z

Script done

Answer 16 · 2023-05-10T14:06:04.000Z

Technically, recording + noise code are done.
Creation still needs cloning!

Answer 17 · 2023-05-26T07:21:57.000Z

Voice done and edited - but will probably do some reshoots

because:

sections need a bit of restructuring. there's too much of a long silence at the start of the destruction section (maybe appropriate though???)

also control is weirdly placed.

the interruptions need to be less conversational, more simplistic, and less mean. "berd............ (dancing stop).... no music...... (chp)"

also outro, don't commentate it, just let it happen throughout the credits, and then only realise afterwards - "wait... w d b g?" "wait.... d b f a?"

yeah ok, and think that'll do it!!!!!
decision needed later about music in credits, but that's fine either way

Answer 18 · 2023-06-27T19:27:53.000Z

Update:

I did a re-script and re-take and re-structure. It's good now! I should update the todo list accordingly. I think I could potentially drop the Arrow of Control but let's see how we go! eg: Could move pitch controls to the Arrow of Recording instead. Depends if I really need volume/lowpass/etc or not. If I do need it, I need the Arrow of Control.
Teaser trailer is done, and out!
I'm currently working on getting nogan + arroost to work together well.

Answer 19 · 2023-08-03T20:11:16.000Z

You should really lock these issues to contributors only.

Answer 20 · 2023-08-03T20:44:11.000Z

no its ok :)

Answer 21 · 2023-08-09T08:59:00.000Z

Nogan fully refactored, now back to the Arroost UI

Answer 22 · 2023-08-23T16:55:17.000Z

Arroost and Nogan now WORKING TOGETHER

Answer 23 · 2023-09-02T20:33:23.000Z

Major progress on arroost UI, speeding up a lot now

Might need to rescript + rerecord arrow of infinity as ive found a much cooler way of doing it

Answer 24 · 2023-11-01T12:19:51.000Z

Updated to reflect current status

Answer 25 · 2023-12-03T10:58:13.000Z

updated to current status

Answer 26 · 2023-12-03T11:48:56.000Z

Preparation

Tree of Fame

Habitat

Cursors

Screen of Fame
...

How cool!

Destruction gets introduced in the end!

Answer 27 · 2023-12-03T13:00:59.000Z

yeah its gonna do some more stuff too :)

Answer 28 · 2023-12-03T20:41:31.000Z

arrow of reality code done

Answer 29 · 2023-12-06T11:17:19.000Z

updated script, started screen of fame, started video outro

Answer 30 · 2023-12-21T23:15:49.000Z

No music!!!?

Answer 31 · 2023-12-23T09:57:20.000Z

hey Luke, where did you learn js? in school or online course or where?

i am not good at js and i want to learn it properly, i have learned python using SoloLearn (not to advertise) are there any better choices?

Answer 32 · 2024-01-02T13:41:36.000Z

hey Luke, where did you learn js? in school or online course or where?

I first learned javascript on codecademy! it was quite nice and simple back then though

Answer 33 · 2024-01-02T13:41:45.000Z

creation video done, also cursors and screen of fame done

Answer 34 · 2024-01-02T13:52:46.000Z

creation video done, also cursors and screen of fame done

Amazing!

Can't wait for the finished Video!!

Answer 35 · 2024-01-02T16:04:08.000Z

arrow of recording video done

Answer 36 · 2024-01-02T19:22:15.000Z

arrow of noise video done

Answer 37 · 2024-01-02T19:34:28.000Z

notes:

title sequence misaligned background
flip the panning of some things
slower noise manipulation - add extra left and right if needed
fewer 'berds'. or at least more muffled during zoom it
lack of clarity at "it's a noise". either lengthen clip, or replace with a more different one, eg: multiple noises?? hm. or maybe remove and make the previous clip more zoomed out
stack arrow names in column
too much bass on bass
remove extra strum before riff
riff too loud
remove gap(s) from riff phrases
b roll section in riff is too fast - out of time?
"no music" too spaced out
remove first bass sound - confuses what is being shown
extend kalimba pattern
consider simulating trimming with "left and right"

Answer 38 · 2024-01-03T09:33:49.000Z

feedback applied, except for panning, which I'll do when I'm using my better headphones

Answer 39 · 2024-01-03T10:23:11.000Z

connection video done

Answer 40 · 2024-01-03T11:23:13.000Z

voice for time done

Answer 41 · 2024-01-03T15:19:07.000Z

video for timing done

Answer 42 · 2024-01-03T15:40:56.000Z

timing voice done

Answer 43 · 2024-01-03T16:17:36.000Z

first half of timing video done

Answer 44 · 2024-01-03T18:10:43.000Z

wrapping up for today, did most of the music for timing video. maybe add some wind instruments tomorrow

Answer 45 · 2024-01-03T18:20:18.000Z

notes:

maybe tweak down the volume of second voice?
tweak down volume of some later sounds?
maybe a build-up sound to the "chain sounds" section
maybe "chain sounds" could be low-passed? maybe not tho
consider showing berd at "chain sounds". maybe too soon since the last time though. and blank screen is kinda cool.
increase volume of strumming in chain sounds song
leave pause after "chain sounds". remove excess sounds for clarity.
remove pop on "one beat later"
remove pop later on somewhere
fix timing of xylophone & visual. visual is too late (or xylophone is too early?)
ripple delete "months later" gag. not clear enough
consider showing image of the arrow in the paintpond clips
consider drastically slowing down "chain sounds" section and build up with wind instruments instead
zoom in on closed eyes dancing berd
just try out a more dampened effect on second voice

Answer 46 · 2024-01-04T09:41:34.000Z

feedback applied
except for the "chain sounds" ones because gonna do more with that section anyway

Answer 47 · 2024-01-04T13:17:46.000Z

music for timing done

Answer 48 · 2024-01-04T13:26:36.000Z

CUT DESTRUCTION AND REALITY! don't need em

Answer 49 · 2024-01-04T16:20:13.000Z

TIMING VIDEO DONE

Answer 50 · 2024-01-04T16:21:53.000Z

readjusted todo list now that i cut some more stuff

Answer 51 · 2024-01-04T17:26:44.000Z

ALL VOICE DONE.
and kept in a short version of definition

Answer 52 · 2024-01-04T17:41:07.000Z

outro music done

Answer 53 · 2024-01-04T20:00:06.000Z

mapped out infinity til end, and started its music.

need to record some voice for outro. but unsure how long itll be? hmm
EDIT: yeah, i'll just commentate over the final version

Answer 54 · 2024-01-04T20:44:30.000Z

feedback

i think it would be good to bring back in nara in the credits. feels like it deserves a proper ending
xylophone too loud on non-bassy speakers
go on, do the "NEW VIDEO EVERY" dripfeed
confirm you're gonna do a light-hearted 'looking' for the credits monologue
maybe bad idea, but could you consider lengthening the infinity section? feels like it wants another 5-10 seconds. i know the point is to end early, but i think you can still achieve that while eeking out the value. EDIT: Yes, on second watch, I think it needs to do the chorus one more time. There's plenty of stuff to pick from to stitch it together. maybe like a victory lap of all the videos sounds. EDIT: On third watch..... i think it's good as it is. it's quite long already, and there'll be plenty of time for fun shenanigans and victory lapping. EDIT: On fourth watch, I think definitely extend it. and use that for the climax instead of the dialogue. doesn't even need to be long. just a final "NM" and credits
"red fires red" etc is out of time

Answer 55 · 2024-01-04T20:49:13.000Z

2 days until finished video! i guess..

Answer 56 · 2024-01-05T07:55:57.000Z

2 days until finished video! i guess..

my current guess is the 12th january

Answer 57 · 2024-01-05T10:57:36.000Z

OK re-toned the ending. much better now.
just remember to peak BEFORE then

Answer 58 · 2024-01-05T11:00:56.000Z

feedback all applied

Answer 59 · 2024-01-05T11:01:35.000Z

ARROW OF INFINITY CODE DONE also

maybe could make it show pulses? or just avoid that.
just avoid i think, its already pretty impressive

Answer 60 · 2024-01-05T14:27:45.000Z

ALL MUSIC DONE

video only from here til the end

Answer 61 · 2024-01-05T15:44:08.000Z

all clips mapped out for the remainder of the video

Answer 62 · 2024-01-05T17:02:41.000Z

made the dream music more intentional

Answer 63 · 2024-01-05T18:35:38.000Z

arrow of colour video done

Answer 64 · 2024-01-05T20:29:57.000Z

greatly simplify sounds in dream
remove otomatone from outro. keep a few choice sections, like the bassy noises near the end
lowpass harp at "t i s a", or remove?
the repeating bass from first section - can it work in the dream section?
gradually lowpass voice while leading up to dream to indicate you can't hear it. pop back after the recursive section (still before dream). though consider dialling back the lowpass during dream
remove all orange circles
improve timing of automation examples. it seems like it's inconsistent or something. maybe need to adjust voice timing to match the music.
for real, do the "new video every" iteration timing. it makes it land better. and the current timing isn't precious. in fact, it could do with being longer.
Make berd dance more at start of colour section. maybe flamenco? or pout maybe
Leave more of an awkward pause before colour section?. yes - add pout
EDIT: ah screw it I should move the dream section to the next phrase!!!! double down on it? money shot in earlier section? or interspersed?
change M to H
add another harp on the pink sand.
extend the pink sand to the bottom row
EDIT: ok but actually maybe the current dream section is still there, just not the peak. then i can dial back its sound and just continue the dream interspersed in the money shot. seems like the best of both options
continue stylo melody until tree.
continue harp rhythm in dream
some things jump in volume too much at start of dream
consider adding repeating whistle to dream onwards. see voice notes for reference
cut off tode's shoulder in second berd whistle

Answer 65 · 2024-01-07T19:42:40.000Z

add (at least) 2 (EDIT: 4!?) more berd t-shirts in build up to dream. more madness. consider little whistle in those bits to foreshadow? one of these clips can replace the empty tree (maybe move it one clip earlier though - or alternatively, alternate between berd and broll. maybe to get ready for the flipping-on-and-off during the dream). the other can either replace some arroost, or just get squeezed in. (see next point). MORE BERD ROLL, LESS B ROLL. one could be spinning berd in centre of screen. one could be different dances overlaid on each other. one could be 'splitting' somehow. one could be scaling x and y independently.
ditch some arroost clips leading up to dream. let the boy shine. the one immediately before dream can just be blank screen.
deal with the accidental whistle in the outro. it's the by accident but it kinda works!?!? or maybe not i dunno
extend credits?? feels rushed.
double check that none of the audio poops the speakers
audio pop at "the same way"? also one at start of that sequence
make pout cheep less breath-y?
maybe horizontally flip second dream to make it seem more different? or tease it? or do something to make it different. MAYBE IT COULD BE ON A WHITE BACKGROUND. or different background
first harp phrase in money shot feels too out of time
second flamenco should be zoomed in.
one of the gaps in the dream feels a little too short?

Answer 66 · 2024-01-09T08:14:11.000Z

remove white from spin down (and elsewhere). save white for after dream.
give money shot white background
clips jump too fast just before dream. i told u - more berd roll, less b roll.
i think the volume of music in the colour-onwards section could be louder. maybe just alter the entire tracks' volumes
make berd quieter at beginning titles

Answer 67 · 2024-01-11T08:37:36.000Z

pout slightly out of time
at the very least, try out fading to white at end
in the pre-dream, start doing the black 'pauses' perhaps (to start with)

Answer 68 · 2024-01-15T18:15:35.000Z

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