clboss no longer managing fees after upgrading core lightning to v23

[dazl]

clboss has been managing outgoing fees on my channels for over a year but as of a couple of weeks ago fees never change (unless I adjust them manually with setchannel).

The timing appears to coincide with the upgrade of core lightning to v23.02.2

Running 0.13A

(also: before stopping adjusting fees some channels were set to unusually high ppm, in the thousands of msats where they typically would have been set in the hundreds)

[xNDTyf]

I can confirm this correlation wit 23.2, but ZmnSCPxj seems to be no more active .. (Satoshi 2.0?)

[dazl]

Thank you for confirming. I have been looking for alternative fee management scripts for core lightning but have not found anything so far

[xNDTyf]

I use https://github.com/lightningd/plugins/tree/master/feeadjuster in parallel to clboss, for feemod.
Use feeadjuster-feestrategy=median ! The other setting does not "work", or does not help for this purpose.

I think it is just a small modification that is needed to the clboss api call, but I am unable to modify without debugging and I have only time for "looking in the code"

[dazl]

ah yes thanks for the tip on feeadjuster-feestrategy.

I'll try it again with that setting. I also need to figure out why it does not read my feeadjuster-exclude.list

[ksedgwic]

I think it is quite likely that #162 fixes this. I think I see CLBOSS managing fees on my nodes that are using that fix.

[ksedgwic]

@dazl @xNDTyf Any chance you could re-check with current master? I'm not sure if my use on testnet is sensitive enough to fee issues to confirm ...

[chrisguida]

This is the last issue before release, correct? Seems like if no one can repro this soon, it could just go into the next release?

[ksedgwic]

I'm pretty sure that CLBOSS is managing fees on my 23.08 testnet nodes.

I think we should close this issue and re-open it with new information / symptoms if necessary.

[btchans]

plugin-clboss: FeeModderBySize: Peer xxxx has 29 other peers, 7 of which have less capacity than us, 22 have more. Multiplier: 0.719958
i get those messages. so i assume clboss is feemodding by size. not by balance.
any chance to explain the difference?
how to switch from "bySize" to "byBalance"?
how do they get triggered or to configure?

[ksedgwic]

I don't know.

The message above makes me think "size" means total capacity of the peer. Is that what you think? And which/what balance do you mean?

[tsjk]

Was it ever byBalance?