Some CN glyphs are representing in HK/TW style
jimmymasaru opened this issue · 4 comments
In theory all the ideographs in BMP should have a CN style as China's GB18030 covers almost all of the BMP, and also some are in non-BMP.
I noticed that in the CN (and also JP & KR) mapping, there are 214 characters in the BMP's CJK blocks are mapped to an HK or TW regional style and most of them are distinguishable from their CN style. And these CN glyphs have been removed from the version I am using (2.004). I believe these CN style glyphs should be recovered and CN, JP & KR mapping should point to the CN glyphs.
If there are not enough slots left, maybe we should consider merging some non-essential regional differences like ⻌, ⺮, 䒑 (as in 豆), 𠂆 between CN and JP? And we can also keep only the Japanese style of Japanese dingbats like ㍿. I believe those have been suggested in other issues.
4FD6 俖 10176 uni4FD6-TW
4FF7 俷 10225 uni4FF7-TW
505D 偝 10407 uni505D-TW
506E 偮 10438 uni506E-TW
5087 傇 10479 uni5087-TW
50BC 傼 10586 uni50BC-HK
50C1 僁 10594 uni50C1-TW
50D7 僗 10634 uni50D7-TW
50E0 僠 10651 uni50E0-TW
50FD 僽 10707 uni50FD-TW
512E 儮 10797 uni512E-TW
524E 剎 11239 uni524E-TW
5262 剢 11272 uni5262-TW
5414 吔 11965 uni5414-HK
5419 吙 11970 uni5419-TW
5437 吷 12023 uni5437-TW
54CB 哋 12237 uni54CB-HK
5512 唒 12340 uni5512-TW
558C 喌 12529 uni558C-TW
5690 嚐 12994 uni5690-TW
56C6 囆 13096 uni56C6-TW
57B9 垹 13457 uni57B9-TW
57EE 埮 13539 uni57EE-TW
5838 堸 13662 uni5838-TW
587B 塻 13775 uni587B-TW
5970 奰 14192 uni5970-TW
5E59 幙 16805 uni5E59-TW
5E60 幠 16817 uni5E60-TW
6039 怹 17667 uni6039-TW
6090 悐 17809 uni6090-TW
6154 慔 18158 uni6154-TW
61F1 懱 18463 uni61F1-TW
62B0 抰 18777 uni62B0-TW
6315 挕 18929 uni6315-TW
6423 搣 19377 uni6423-TW
64CF 擏 19693 uni64CF-TW
64EB 擫 19749 uni64EB-TW
650E 攎 19827 uni650E-TW
6565 敥 19977 uni6565-TW
6579 敹 20010 uni6579-TW
6671 晱 20432 uni6671-TW
66AF 暯 20532 uni66AF-TW
66DE 曞 20612 uni66DE-TW
6779 杹 20868 uni6779-TW
6820 栠 21123 uni6820-TW
6826 栦 21132 uni6826-TW
683A 栺 21168 uni683A-TW
6891 梑 21305 uni6891-TW
6967 楧 21690 uni6967-HK
69B5 榵 21834 uni69B5-TW
69F9 槹 21966 uni69F9-HK
6A57 橗 22131 uni6A57-HK
6B76 歶 22650 uni6B76-TW
6C0B 氋 22940 uni6C0B-TW
6C8E 沎 23146 uni6C8E-TW
6CB7 沷 23204 uni6CB7-TW
6D42 浂 23412 uni6D42-TW
6E03 渃 23727 uni6E03-TW
6E2A 渪 23787 uni6E2A-HK
6E61 湡 23883 uni6E61-TW
6F1C 漜 24220 uni6F1C-TW
6F55 潕 24317 uni6F55-TW
6F79 潹 24379 uni6F79-HK
6FAB 澫 24469 uni6FAB-TW
6FBF 澿 24511 uni6FBF-TW
6FFF 濿 24621 uni6FFF-TW
700E 瀎 24653 uni700E-TW
7031 瀱 24724 uni7031-TW
7071 灱 24846 uni7071-TW
7074 灴 24849 uni7074-TW
708B 炋 24901 uni708B-HK
7093 炓 24916 uni7093-TW
70A3 炣 24948 uni70A3-HK
70C5 烅 25010 uni70C5-TW
70C6 烆 25011 uni70C6-TW
70CC 烌 25022 uni70CC-HK
70CD 烍 25023 uni70CD-TW
70D2 烒 25032 uni70D2-TW
70F3 烳 25089 uni70F3-TW
70F4 烴 25090 uni70F4-TW
711F 焟 25175 uni711F-TW
7128 焨 25192 uni7128-TW
712C 焬 25200 uni712C-HK
713A 焺 25229 uni713A-TW
713B 焻 25230 uni713B-HK
7142 煂 25241 uni7142-TW
7144 煄 25244 uni7144-TW
714D 煍 25262 uni714D-TW
714F 煏 25266 uni714F-HK
7154 煔 25277 uni7154-TW
7158 煘 25285 uni7158-HK
715F 煟 25300 uni715F-TW
7170 煰 25335 uni7170-TW
717C 煼 25358 uni717C-HK
7181 熁 25368 uni7181-TW
7182 熂 25370 uni7182-TW
71BC 熼 25496 uni71BC-TW
71BD 熽 25497 uni71BD-TW
71C6 燆 25523 uni71C6-TW
71E4 燤 25586 uni71E4-TW
71E8 燨 25597 uni71E8-TW
7203 爃 25650 uni7203-TW
7205 爅 25653 uni7205-TW
720F 爏 25679 uni720F-HK
721E 爞 25710 uni721E-TW
7223 爣 25720 uni7223-TW
7227 爧 25729 uni7227-TW
724A 牊 25788 uni724A-TW
72A1 犡 25934 uni72A1-TW
72C5 狅 25988 uni72C5-TW
733C 猼 26181 uni733C-TW
735B 獛 26235 uni735B-TW
7373 獳 26275 uni7373-TW
73A4 玤 26356 uni73A4-TW
744C 瑌 26609 uni744C-HK
7690 皐 27720 uni7690-HK
76DA 盚 27831 uni76DA-TW
770F 眏 27917 uni770F-HK
7732 眲 27963 uni7732-TW
7781 瞁 28093 uni7781-TW
77A8 瞨 28161 uni77A8-TW
77CE 矎 28230 uni77CE-TW
78F0 磰 28691 uni78F0-HK
78F1 磱 28692 uni78F1-HK
791D 礝 28762 uni791D-TW
7923 礣 28772 uni7923-TW
7A2A 稪 29252 uni7A2A-HK
7A2C 稬 29254 uni7A2C-HK
7AFC 竼 29710 uni7AFC-HK
7B01 笁 29719 uni7B01-TW
7B1A 笚 29767 uni7B1A-TW
7B1D 笝 29771 uni7B1D-TW
7B42 筂 29845 uni7B42-HK
7B44 筄 29848 uni7B44-TW
7B63 筣 29909 uni7B63-TW
7B78 筸 29955 uni7B78-TW
7B82 箂 29969 uni7B82-TW
7BA3 箣 30045 uni7BA3-HK
7BD8 篘 30146 uni7BD8-TW
7BE2 篢 30171 uni7BE2-TW
7BFB 篻 30228 uni7BFB-TW
7BFD 篽 30233 uni7BFD-TW
7BFF 篿 30236 uni7BFF-TW
7C0A 簊 30263 uni7C0A-TW
7C1D 簝 30304 uni7C1D-TW
7C35 簵 30354 uni7C35-HK
7C8E 粎 30560 uni7C8E-HK
7CD0 糐 30692 uni7CD0-TW
808A 肊 32541 uni808A-TW
8090 肐 32551 uni8090-TW
8095 肕 32561 uni8095-TW
80C9 胉 32664 uni80C9-TW
80D1 胑 32681 uni80D1-TW
80E3 胣 32718 uni80E3-TW
8115 脕 32819 uni8115-TW
8119 脙 32828 uni8119-TW
812A 脪 32864 uni812A-HK
8134 脴 32885 uni8134-HK
8142 腂 32908 uni8142-HK
8144 腄 32911 uni8144-TW
8156 腖 32952 uni8156-HK
815C 腜 32961 uni815C-TW
8162 腢 32974 uni8162-TW
816C 腬 32994 uni816C-HK
81AB 膫 33139 uni81AB-TW
81D0 臐 33229 uni81D0-TW
8215 舕 33377 uni8215-TW
827C 艼 33624 uni827C-TW
8285 芅 33640 uni8285-TW
829E 芞 33687 uni829E-TW
82B5 芵 33749 uni82B5-TW
82C3 苃 33779 uni82C3-TW
82D6 苖 33811 uni82D6-TW
82F2 苲 33873 uni82F2-TW
82F5 苵 33879 uni82F5-TW
82F8 苸 33885 uni82F8-HK
82FC 苼 33894 uni82FC-HK
8319 茙 33950 uni8319-TW
8320 茠 33965 uni8320-TW
8326 茦 33977 uni8326-TW
833F 茿 34034 uni833F-TW
8341 荁 34038 uni8341-TW
834B 荋 34060 uni834B-TW
8374 荴 34126 uni8374-TW
8381 莁 34156 uni8381-TW
838B 莋 34175 uni838B-TW
8390 莐 34189 uni8390-TW
8397 莗 34205 uni8397-TW
83A4 莤 34234 uni83A4-TW
83AE 莮 34258 uni83AE-TW
83AF 莯 34259 uni83AF-TW
83C4 菄 34291 uni83C4-TW
83CB 菋 34308 uni83CB-TW
83D7 菗 34332 uni83D7-TW
9FA6 龦 47497 uni9FA6-HK
9FA7 龧 47498 uni9FA7-HK
9FA8 龨 47499 uni9FA8-HK
9FA9 龩 47500 uni9FA9-HK
9FAA 龪 47501 uni9FAA-HK
9FAB 龫 47502 uni9FAB-HK
9FAC 龬 47503 uni9FAC-HK
9FAD 龭 47504 uni9FAD-HK
9FAE 龮 47505 uni9FAE-HK
9FAF 龯 47506 uni9FAF-HK
9FB0 龰 47507 uni9FB0-HK
9FB1 龱 47508 uni9FB1-HK
9FB2 龲 47509 uni9FB2-HK
9FB3 龳 47510 uni9FB3-HK
9FC7 鿇 47532 uni9FC7-HK
9FC8 鿈 47533 uni9FC8-HK
9FC9 鿉 47534 uni9FC9-HK
9FCA 鿊 47535 uni9FCA-HK
9FCB 鿋 47536 uni9FCB-HK
9FD0 鿐 47542 uni9FD0-HK
These non-essential regional differences also include the tops of 金, 合, 余, etc..
Yeah, I know that at least this design differences will have to be once again discussed with the design teams, Arphic and Changzhou SinoType, according to my friend who also talked about unifying the 辶 component, and we may not know what the outcome is for quite a while.
I even wanted to unify the 戶 component between JP/KR and CN/TW/HK but the typeface designer said no, according to Dr Lunde years ago. Maybe this time the design teams will listen based on pragmatism? I would have preferred the JP forms of 戶, but in my honest opinion, TW forms of 戶 work too and is cleaner.
P.S. If they finally decide to unify 戶, based on the TW forms, I suggest to keep the JP shape, balance and aesthetics, just remove only that decoration in 戶, map to the TW locale and then remove the TW glyphs afterwards.
Unfortunately my immature attitude at that time about wanting them to copy another commercial typeface might have discouraged Dr Lunde and the Adobe team from unifying the 人 component. Nevertheless, this is still up for discussion and whether they (of course without Dr Lunde) want to change course and follow or not, is up to them, not us.
And yes, some of the CN style glyphs that were removed in v2 are "out-of-scope" JP glyphs, which could be restored as well. Maybe the other unreleased JP glyphs (which never made it to v1) might also come to light?
I am sure my friend also prepared a PDF list of removed CN and JP glyphs for you to refer to, in case you haven't heard. If you're interested, I might upload that PDF.
UPDATE: Just a few minor changes to my wording.
For the list of characters here, 8 require immediate attention as they are in 通用规范汉字表: 晱瀱炣煟玤簝胣荁
Another 2 are in GB/T 12345: 腖烴
(You can note the standards that the characters are in on the top of characters)
For the list of characters here, 8 require immediate attention as they are in 通用规范汉字表:
晱瀱炣煟玤簝胣荁Another 2 are in GB/T 12345:
腖烴
Easy solution: Restore v1 JP glyphs for all of them.
