RS issues

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RS issues

eisoch opened this issue 7 years ago · 10 comments

UCS	Block	Char	Ref.	Current RS	Correct RS	Variant	Source
U+3B3A	ExtA	㬺	K3-275E	74.10	74.9		IRGN2239
U+2575E	ExtB	𥝞	TF-2842	115.3	59.5	彩	IRGN2269EisoReview,異體字字典A01271-004
U+2A741	ExtC	𪝁	K5-005E	9.7	30.6
U+2A80F	ExtC	𪠏	GZFY-00829	27.9	107.6	𥀬	广州话词典_P55
U+2B0D7	ExtC	𫃗	GZFY-01010	119.16	178'.18	𩏷
U+2B180	ExtC	𫆀	TC-3558	128.2	26.6	耶	IRGN1232P1
U+2B385	ExtC	𫎅	TC-3623	152.1	1.7,7.6	亟,焏	IRGN1232P1,佛教難字字典_P7
U+2C1AE	ExtE	𬆮	UTC-00068	79.11	196'.10	鷇
U+2D495	ExtF	𭒕	USAT-60078	38.11	30.11	嘙

(To be continued....)

hfhchan commented 7 years ago

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Answer 1 · 2018-02-19T10:27:05.000Z

UCS	Block	Char	Ref.	CurrentRS	CorrectRS	Variant	Source
U+2A741	ExtC	𪝁	K5-005E	9.7	30.6
U+2B180	ExtC	𫆀	TC-3558	128.2	26.6	耶	IRGN1232P1
U+2B385	ExtC	𫎅	TC-3623	152.1	1.7,7.6	亟,焏	IRGN1232P1,佛教難字字典_P7

Answer 2 · 2018-02-25T15:22:23.000Z

To investigate:

Answer 3 · 2018-02-25T15:37:00.000Z

3977和22283按康熙归部

Answer 4 · 2021-09-06T10:16:13.000Z

UCS	Block	Char	Ref.	CurrentRS	CorrectRS	Variant	Comment
U+5954	BMP	奔	ALL	37.6	37.5	FA7F	Current RS refers to the FA7F Kangxi glyph, not the reference glyphs.
U+5ED9	BMP	廙	ALL	53.12	53.11	FA83	Current RS refers to the FA83 Kangxi glyph, not the reference glyphs.
U+6452	BMP	摒	J1-405C, K2-365A	64.9	64.9; 64.11	FA8F	J1-405C and K2-365A represent the 'normative' Kangxi glyph, which is 11 strokes. However, the G, H, T source glyphs are 9 strokes.

Answer 5 · 2021-09-06T10:49:40.000Z

Note: stroke count for old characters follow the Kangxi count, and new characters follow the IRG stroke count rules. The treatment of existing characters is currently undefined (but a solution should be sought out).

Answer 6 · 2021-09-06T10:58:38.000Z

by 'old' characters, you mean the Unicode 1.1 BMP set?
what does the 'IRG stroke count rules' refer to? (sorry, I am a newcomer to this documentation.)

as far as I know, 5954 and 5ED9 have never had earlier reference glyphs (in any region) that correspond to the Kangxi stroke count.

note that 摒 6452 is listed as 9 strokes (which is correct for G, H, T); but the Kangxi stroke count is actually 11 (J, K). so, if RS is supposed to list the Kangxi stroke count for old characters, then UniHan is inconsistent on this issue.

Answer 7 · 2021-09-06T11:15:32.000Z

New Extensions to the CJK Unified Ideographs are handled by IRG, a subgroup of ISO/IEC JTC1/SC2/WG2. You may refer to the IRG PnP which specifies the documents to refer to for stroke count.

For old characters (URO to Extension F), supposedly they follow the rule in The Unicode Standard which will use the stroke count in Kangxi Dictionary as priority, then that from the Morahashi dictionary, then Hanyu Dazidian, then from a specific Korean dictionary, even if none of the representative glyphs use the Kangxi shape.

Unfortunately Kangxi is not consistent in its stroke count methodology.

Answer 8 · 2021-09-06T11:18:13.000Z

I think Unihan has some work in progress which intends to change the field to reflect the actual stroke count. But I'm not of its status.

Answer 9 · 2021-09-06T18:11:18.000Z

New Extensions to the CJK Unified Ideographs are handled by IRG, a subgroup of ISO/IEC JTC1/SC2/WG2. You may refer to the IRG PnP which specifies the documents to refer to for stroke count.

For old characters (URO to Extension F), supposedly they follow the rule in The Unicode Standard which will use the stroke count in Kangxi Dictionary as priority, then that from the Morahashi dictionary, then Hanyu Dazidian, then from a specific Korean dictionary, even if none of the representative glyphs use the Kangxi shape.

Unfortunately Kangxi is not consistent in its stroke count methodology.

Thank you for the pointers. The only IRG document I've looked at in detail is IRG N2107R2, which is about the UK glyphs for ExtG.