Bug: Convincing people to do it right is not as easy as it should be
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lemanschik commented
ToggleBit — heute um 08:16 Uhr
Well first off: I am hard to convince because of the following:
I have very little free time in life. I choose to spend my free time with my family and working on my projects.
It is unlikely that I would stop using Github for my projects because:
- Everyone knows Github
- I can already share my projects with my viewers on Github
SP33D — heute um 08:16 Uhr
i saw that and understood what i did wrong i tryed to tell others that it would be better to do something i simply now call everything a bug
😄
ToggleBit — heute um 08:16 Uhr
Haha I don't think you should call everything a bug 😄
SP33D — heute um 08:16 Uhr
ah your correct so you like async flow in general
But it is a bug that stuff like Discord Exists
and it is a bug that linux and windows exists
ToggleBit — heute um 08:17 Uhr
I kind of see what you mean
but back to what I was saying: it's unlikely that I would stop using Github for this reason
SP33D — heute um 08:17 Uhr
it is a result of a bad history and the track of it
and the incremental change mentality
ToggleBit — heute um 08:18 Uhr
Not only would I have to change the way I do things, I would also have to tell everyone of my viewers to change how they access the code
SP33D — heute um 08:18 Uhr
no one likes complet rewrites
ToggleBit — heute um 08:18 Uhr
That's true
SP33D — heute um 08:18 Uhr
no you would have to tell them nothing
you give them simply a link
they click it all runs
ToggleBit — heute um 08:18 Uhr
yes but that is not the workflow people are used to
SP33D — heute um 08:18 Uhr
Developers onboarded into your custom dev environment
They are used to click on github.com and then codespaces
ToggleBit — heute um 08:18 Uhr
but incremental change helps onboard people
SP33D — heute um 08:18 Uhr
thats what they do today
ToggleBit — heute um 08:19 Uhr
No that's not what everyone does. but let's not get stuck in that detail
SP33D — heute um 08:19 Uhr
the majority at last !!!! we should not assume that we geeks are the majority
most people do not enjoy writing code
there are millions of kids and researchers which are happy to put stuff in jupiter books and so on
ToggleBit — heute um 08:20 Uhr
Incremental / gradual change helps onboard people.
One thing that is important to keep in mind is that a product might be the centre of your life, but it's just a tool or something in the periphery for others
Take Git for instance: it's just something that I have to use now and then, but people who work on the actual code base of Git probably sees it as the centre of a universe
SP33D — heute um 08:22 Uhr
I see it economically as the center of the world
we could make the prove of that via simply turning it of for some month
lets see what happens?
that would prove how importent or periphery it is
ToggleBit — heute um 08:22 Uhr
that's not the point.
A kitchen knife is a tool for a chef, but the centre for a knife maker
If you took all the knives away it would be hard to be a chef, but it wouldn't change their mind
SP33D — heute um 08:23 Uhr
It is also the center of the meat eater
ToggleBit — heute um 08:23 Uhr
to the chef the food is the centre
SP33D — heute um 08:23 Uhr
i would not have good life without knifes
i do not like vegetables
ToggleBit — heute um 08:23 Uhr
No one likes vegetables, we eat them or we get yelled at
Jokes aside: my point being: the centre for one is a small thing for another
SP33D — heute um 08:24 Uhr
your correct but i simple do not target small things for others
ToggleBit — heute um 08:24 Uhr
taking all knives away is an inconvenience for the chef, but it's the life line for the knife maker
SP33D — heute um 08:24 Uhr
Else i would not invest so much private stuff into that
ToggleBit — heute um 08:24 Uhr
but I feel like we are digressing a bit here. Maybe metaphors was a bad choice here
SP33D — heute um 08:24 Uhr
i aim to do something big that needs to be done no matter who and how
I agree with your concept i understand what functions in your brain lead to the result
ToggleBit — heute um 08:25 Uhr
and I think you should. Do what drives you and what you are passionate about
SP33D — heute um 08:25 Uhr
but i do in general agree with it with a random addition that i see out of a bigger view that it is nothing that the people can choose about
ToggleBit — heute um 08:26 Uhr
Remember that I'm just some random dude on the internet, I might not quite understand what you are making but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't make it, it just means I don't get it
SP33D — heute um 08:26 Uhr
they will be forced to use that to be competitive or they will simply get softdeprecated
like anything that gets replaced
i believe in natural law that implicitly says that i have a objective none relative view of right and wrong. A Clear moral Structure
and in that i see no way for anything else to exist in future
Everything that not directly belongs to a single human that needs a other human to let him do what he wants to do needs to get stopped
People do need to get technical empowered
even to a level much higher then any centralised state system that is the only way to get out of the mess
we need to transfer fundamental control to people
sure this can be done already from geeks but there exist not much and they do not all agree on each other so we need a free easy to use standard that leads to good results out of the box
Reduction of educational overhead needed to use the internet correct and share apps and data is essential
and that can not be bound to a vendor like mastodon or any one else that offers you security if you lock into them it must be security offered by you
out of the box
Confident Using the internet to spin up confined data endpoints are essential
Also for sharing your own private data later with a state you want to control what you share where and how and why
that's only possible if you own your data and can revoke access to it
But who owns his data today? 😄