CDNs

[moriel5]

Piped's main servers rely upon Cloudflare to properly serve people outside of their jurisdiction, is there something similar planned for Piped-Material?

Currently I am getting latency of over 500ms (spiking at around 1200ms) to any of the Piped-Material servers, however despite having latency of around 150ms to Kavin's servers, thanks to Cloudflare I consistently have far better latency (Cloudflare has a CDN in my country), even if it is not as good as whatever CDN Google relies upon (they have no server within our country), since it connects to their main US server instead of the local CDN that serves YouTube content.

I realized this is not a necessity, as Piped-Material relies upon Piped for the actual logic, however it would be nice not to have to wait as long for the website itself to load (I have cache set to be cleared upon browser close).

[mmjee]

Piped-Material is currently hosted from a server in Kolkata, WB (India), and proxied via a server in Mumbai, MH (also India). If you are seeing high latencies, that's probably the reason. Kavin uses Cloudflare Pages IIRC and therefore Cloudflare replicates the frontend distribution all over the globe. That's how it's always available at a low latency. Either way, I don't ever want to use a CDN due to multiple reasons and non-Cloudflare CDNs essentially will double my costs of running the service. Using something like CF Pages would also break Prerender etc. that allows PM to show embeds despite being an SPA. If latency is still a problem, use IPFS with a local gateway, IPFS downloads and stores the data locally until it's updated by a IPNS publish or garbage collected.

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On 8/31/22 17:09, moriel5 wrote: Piped's main servers rely upon Cloudflare to properly serve people outside of their jurisdiction, is there something similar planned for Piped-Material? Currently I am getting latency of over 500ms (spiking at around 1200ms) to any of the Piped-Material servers, however despite having latency of around 150ms to Kavin's servers, thanks to Cloudflare I consistently have far better latency (Cloudflare has a CDN in my country), even if it is not as good as whatever CDN Google relies upon (they have no server within our country), since it connects to their main US server instead of the local CDN that serves YouTube content. I realized this is not a necessity, as Piped-Material relies upon Piped for the actual logic, however it would be nice not to have to wait as long for the website itself to load (I have cache set to be cleared upon browser close).

[moriel5]

That is true, and certainly fair.
However it would still be nice if you could optionally use something like Cloudflare Pages, since I (and those I prepare their computers) generally disable Prerendering in any case, and Piped still shows embeds without any issues.

IPFS is something I am considering, however will have to wait until at least our home server starts to be used, since I'd rather not have too much stored locally (not every device has the storage capacity for that).

[mmjee]

On 9/1/22 14:18, moriel5 wrote: That is true, and certainly fair. However it would still be nice if you could optionally use something like Cloudflare Pages, since I (and those I prepare their computers) generally disable Prerendering in any case, and Piped still shows embeds without any issues.

Prerendering is not a client side function, it's the generation of embeds for crawlers that try to scrape pages. Especially on social media and instant messaging platforms. Try posting a Piped-Material link and Piped link on Discord or Matrix to see the difference.

IPFS is something I am considering, however will have to wait until at least our home server starts to be used, since I'd rather not have too much stored locally (not every device has the storage capacity for that).

It's probably a prudent decision to run a IPFS gateway for your entire house and address it from every device.

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-- Regards,

[moriel5]

Ah, that does make sense, I had mistaken it for redirection of embedded videos.