RuntimeException Signaling server needs to be updated to be compatible with this version of Talk Failed to send message to signaling server
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Steps to reproduce
- Install Nextcloud AIO
- Install Nextcloud Talk Container from AIO interface
- Use Nextcloud Talk with other users
Expected behavior
Nextcloud AIO installs the most up-to-date signalling software
Actual behavior
Nextcloud talk boots participants out of conversations, double or triple sends messages, and has regular 5-30 second delays when sending.
RuntimeException Signaling server needs to be updated to be compatible with this version of Talk Failed to send message to signaling server
The above error is spammed in the logs constantly as per this message 112 errors in the logs since October 22, 2025, 1:07:09 p.m.
This warning is also displayed in Nextcloud settings Defining multiple High-performance backends is deprecated and will no longer be supported in the upcoming version. Instead a load-balancer should be set up together with clustered signaling servers and configured in the Talk settings. For more details see the [documentation ↗](https://portal.nextcloud.com/article/Partner-Products/Talk-High-Performance-Backend/Nextcloud-Talk-High-Performance-Back-End-Requirements#content-clustering-and-use-of-multiple-hpbs).
Other information
Host OS
Proxmox VE 9.0.11
Debian 12 LXC
Docker 28.5.1
Output of sudo docker info
Client: Docker Engine - Community
Version: 28.5.1
API version: 1.51
Go version: go1.24.8
Git commit: e180ab8
Built: Wed Oct 8 12:17:24 2025
OS/Arch: linux/amd64
Context: default
Server: Docker Engine - Community
Engine:
Version: 28.5.1
API version: 1.51 (minimum version 1.24)
Go version: go1.24.8
Git commit: f8215cc
Built: Wed Oct 8 12:17:24 2025
OS/Arch: linux/amd64
Experimental: false
containerd:
Version: v1.7.28
GitCommit: b98a3aace656320842a23f4a392a33f46af97866
runc:
Version: 1.3.0
GitCommit: v1.3.0-0-g4ca628d1
docker-init:
Version: 0.19.0
GitCommit: de40ad0
root@dockge:~# docker info
Client: Docker Engine - Community
Version: 28.5.1
Context: default
Debug Mode: false
Plugins:
buildx: Docker Buildx (Docker Inc.)
Version: v0.29.1
Path: /usr/libexec/docker/cli-plugins/docker-buildx
compose: Docker Compose (Docker Inc.)
Version: v2.40.2
Path: /root/.docker/cli-plugins/docker-compose
model: Docker Model Runner (Docker Inc.)
Version: v0.1.44
Path: /usr/libexec/docker/cli-plugins/docker-model
Server:
Containers: 23
Running: 21
Paused: 0
Stopped: 2
Images: 25
Server Version: 28.5.1
Storage Driver: overlay2
Backing Filesystem: zfs
Supports d_type: true
Using metacopy: false
Native Overlay Diff: true
userxattr: true
Logging Driver: journald
Cgroup Driver: systemd
Cgroup Version: 2
Plugins:
Volume: local
Network: bridge host ipvlan macvlan null overlay
Log: awslogs fluentd gcplogs gelf journald json-file local splunk syslog
CDI spec directories:
/etc/cdi
/var/run/cdi
Swarm: inactive
Runtimes: io.containerd.runc.v2 runc
Default Runtime: runc
Init Binary: docker-init
containerd version: b98a3aace656320842a23f4a392a33f46af97866
runc version: v1.3.0-0-g4ca628d1
init version: de40ad0
Security Options:
seccomp
Profile: builtin
cgroupns
Kernel Version: 6.14.11-4-pve
Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
OSType: linux
Architecture: x86_64
CPUs: 8
Total Memory: 24GiB
Name: dockge
ID: 22429c79-a606-4330-a917-3e413efa3222
Docker Root Dir: /var/lib/docker
Debug Mode: false
Experimental: false
Insecure Registries:
::1/128
127.0.0.0/8
Live Restore Enabled: false
Docker run command or docker-compose file that you used
services:
nextcloud-aio-mastercontainer:
image: ghcr.io/nextcloud-releases/all-in-one:latest # This is the container image used. You can switch to ghcr.io/nextcloud-releases/all-in-one:beta if you want to help testing new releases. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-switch-the-channel
init: true # This setting makes sure that signals from main process inside the container are correctly forwarded to children. See https://docs.docker.com/reference/compose-file/services/#init
restart: always # This makes sure that the container starts always together with the host OS. See https://docs.docker.com/reference/compose-file/services/#restart
container_name: nextcloud-aio-mastercontainer # This line is not allowed to be changed as otherwise AIO will not work correctly
volumes:
- nextcloud_aio_mastercontainer:/mnt/docker-aio-config # This line is not allowed to be changed as otherwise the built-in backup solution will not work
- /var/run/docker.sock:/var/run/docker.sock:ro # May be changed on macOS, Windows or docker rootless. See the applicable documentation. If adjusting, don't forget to also set 'WATCHTOWER_DOCKER_SOCKET_PATH'!
network_mode: bridge # This adds the container to the same network as docker run would do. Comment this line and uncomment the line below and the networks section at the end of the file if you want to define a custom MTU size for the docker network
# networks: ["nextcloud-aio"]
ports:
#- 80:80 # Can be removed when running behind a web server or reverse proxy (like Apache, Nginx, Caddy, Cloudflare Tunnel and else). See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one/blob/main/reverse-proxy.md
- 9090:8080 # This is the AIO interface, served via https and self-signed certificate. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#explanation-of-used-ports
#- 8443:8443 # Can be removed when running behind a web server or reverse proxy (like Apache, Nginx, Caddy, Cloudflare Tunnel and else). See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one/blob/main/reverse-proxy.md
# security_opt: ["label:disable"] # Is needed when using SELinux. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#are-there-known-problems-when-selinux-is-enabled
environment:
TALK_PORT: 3479
# Is needed when using any of the options below
# AIO_DISABLE_BACKUP_SECTION: false # Setting this to true allows to hide the backup section in the AIO interface. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-disable-the-backup-section
APACHE_PORT: 11000 # Is needed when running behind a web server or reverse proxy (like Apache, Nginx, Caddy, Cloudflare Tunnel and else). See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one/blob/main/reverse-proxy.md
APACHE_IP_BINDING: 0.0.0.0 # Should be set when running behind a web server or reverse proxy (like Apache, Nginx, Caddy, Cloudflare Tunnel and else) that is running on the same host. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one/blob/main/reverse-proxy.md
# APACHE_ADDITIONAL_NETWORK: frontend_net # (Optional) Connect the apache container to an additional docker network. Needed when behind a web server or reverse proxy (like Apache, Nginx, Caddy, Cloudflare Tunnel and else) running in a different docker network on same server. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one/blob/main/reverse-proxy.md
# BORG_RETENTION_POLICY: --keep-within=7d --keep-weekly=4 --keep-monthly=6 # Allows to adjust borgs retention policy. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-adjust-borgs-retention-policy
# COLLABORA_SECCOMP_DISABLED: false # Setting this to true allows to disable Collabora's Seccomp feature. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-disable-collaboras-seccomp-feature
# FULLTEXTSEARCH_JAVA_OPTIONS: "-Xms1024M -Xmx1024M" # Allows to adjust the fulltextsearch java options. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-adjust-the-fulltextsearch-java-options
NEXTCLOUD_DATADIR: /Data/Cloud/nextcloud # Allows to set the host directory for Nextcloud's datadir. ⚠️⚠️⚠️ Warning: do not set or adjust this value after the initial Nextcloud installation is done! See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-change-the-default-location-of-nextclouds-datadir
# NEXTCLOUD_MOUNT: /mnt/ # Allows the Nextcloud container to access the chosen directory on the host. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-allow-the-nextcloud-container-to-access-directories-on-the-host
NEXTCLOUD_UPLOAD_LIMIT: 64G # Can be adjusted if you need more. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-adjust-the-upload-limit-for-nextcloud
# NEXTCLOUD_MAX_TIME: 3600 # Can be adjusted if you need more. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-adjust-the-max-execution-time-for-nextcloud
# NEXTCLOUD_MEMORY_LIMIT: 512M # Can be adjusted if you need more. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-adjust-the-php-memory-limit-for-nextcloud
# NEXTCLOUD_TRUSTED_CACERTS_DIR: /path/to/my/cacerts # CA certificates in this directory will be trusted by the OS of the nextcloud container (Useful e.g. for LDAPS) See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-trust-user-defined-certification-authorities-ca
# NEXTCLOUD_STARTUP_APPS: deck twofactor_totp tasks calendar contacts notes # Allows to modify the Nextcloud apps that are installed on starting AIO the first time. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-change-the-nextcloud-apps-that-are-installed-on-the-first-startup
# NEXTCLOUD_ADDITIONAL_APKS: imagemagick # This allows to add additional packages to the Nextcloud container permanently. Default is imagemagick but can be overwritten by modifying this value. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-add-os-packages-permanently-to-the-nextcloud-container
# NEXTCLOUD_ADDITIONAL_PHP_EXTENSIONS: imagick # This allows to add additional php extensions to the Nextcloud container permanently. Default is imagick but can be overwritten by modifying this value. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-add-php-extensions-permanently-to-the-nextcloud-container
NEXTCLOUD_ENABLE_DRI_DEVICE: true # This allows to enable the /dev/dri device for containers that profit from it. ⚠️⚠️⚠️ Warning: this only works if the '/dev/dri' device is present on the host! If it should not exist on your host, don't set this to true as otherwise the Nextcloud container will fail to start! See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-enable-hardware-acceleration-for-nextcloud
# NEXTCLOUD_ENABLE_NVIDIA_GPU: true # This allows to enable the NVIDIA runtime and GPU access for containers that profit from it. ⚠️⚠️⚠️ Warning: this only works if an NVIDIA gpu is installed on the server. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-enable-hardware-acceleration-for-nextcloud.
# NEXTCLOUD_KEEP_DISABLED_APPS: false # Setting this to true will keep Nextcloud apps that are disabled in the AIO interface and not uninstall them if they should be installed. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-keep-disabled-apps
# SKIP_DOMAIN_VALIDATION: false # This should only be set to true if things are correctly configured. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one?tab=readme-ov-file#how-to-skip-the-domain-validation
# TALK_PORT: 3478 # This allows to adjust the port that the talk container is using which is exposed on the host. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-adjust-the-talk-port
# WATCHTOWER_DOCKER_SOCKET_PATH: /var/run/docker.sock # Needs to be specified if the docker socket on the host is not located in the default '/var/run/docker.sock'. Otherwise mastercontainer updates will fail. For macos it needs to be '/var/run/docker.sock'
# # Optional: Caddy reverse proxy. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one/discussions/575
# # Alternatively, use Tailscale if you don't have a domain yet. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one/discussions/6817
# # Hint: You need to uncomment APACHE_PORT: 11000 above, adjust cloud.example.com to your domain and uncomment the necessary docker volumes at the bottom of this file in order to make it work
# # You can find further examples here: https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one/discussions/588
# caddy:
# image: caddy:alpine
# restart: always
# container_name: caddy
# volumes:
# - caddy_certs:/certs
# - caddy_config:/config
# - caddy_data:/data
# - caddy_sites:/srv
# network_mode: "host"
# configs:
# - source: Caddyfile
# target: /etc/caddy/Caddyfile
# configs:
# Caddyfile:
# content: |
# # Adjust cloud.example.com to your domain below
# https://cloud.example.com:443 {
# reverse_proxy localhost:11000
# }
volumes:
# If you want to store the data on a different drive, see https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-store-the-filesinstallation-on-a-separate-drive
nextcloud_aio_mastercontainer:
name: nextcloud_aio_mastercontainer # This line is not allowed to be changed as otherwise the built-in backup solution will not work
# caddy_certs:
# caddy_config:
# caddy_data:
# caddy_sites:
# # Adjust the MTU size of the docker network. See https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one#how-to-adjust-the-mtu-size-of-the-docker-network
networks:
nextcloud-aio:
name: nextcloud-aio
driver_opts:
com.docker.network.driver.mtu: 1440