Failure to Generate Waveform or Spectrogram from VideoPad Exports

[maxmcarroll]

I'm not sure if this is a bug with BORIS or an issue with the video editing software I use (VideoPad), but am not sure where else to ask about it. I'm researching bat sociality and need to watch combined video from two cameras and high frequency audio (192 kHZ) already synced up in VideoPad, which I was hoping to export to BORIS where I would code behavior and calls. Unfortunately, when I try to visualize the spectrogram and waveform, BORIS says the file has an unknown format. I've tried both .mp4 and .mov files; the problem exists for both. The .mp4 had one channel and the .mov had two channels.

To Reproduce

1. In an existing project, create a new observation.
2. Select VideoPad export as first player.
3. When creating the new observation, choose to generate spectrogram and waveform for first player.

Expected behavior
I expected BORIS to be able to generate the spectrogram and waveform; upon testing the individual audio file BORIS has no problem. It only fails to visualize spectrogram/waveform with videopad exports.

Screenshots
error (says the same thing for waveform):

.mov attempt properties:

.mp4 attempt properties:

Desktop (please complete the following information):

• OS: Windows 10
• BORIS v.8.27.1

[olivierfriard]

Hi,
thank you for reporting this.
Is it possible to access the files?

[maxmcarroll]

Hi Mr. Friard, Thank you for the swift response. Attached are the .mp4 and .mov file mentioned. Let me know if you have any trouble viewing the files. Best, Max Carroll test export for BORIS (trial 9 dual cam 192 kHz).mp4 <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VdCVMEO8H6lUcUqdwpXdHAYjb4TIupSr/view?usp=drive_web> trial 1 test -- highest audio quality.mov <https://drive.google.com/file/d/11Gtb23ykQJo3zNRM-9tTnt5ocHLv2D0s/view?usp=drive_web>

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[olivierfriard]

Please give me access to the files

[maxmcarroll]

Hi Olivier, Sorry for the delay, I just gave you editor access. Let me know if you have any trouble. Thank you so much for looking into these files! Best, Max Carroll

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[olivierfriard]

thanks for the files.
I will check this as soon as possible

[olivierfriard]

The issue is due to a bug in the wave module for version of Python < 3.12.
I must switch from Python 3.11 to 3.12 for the Windows deployment, I think that a new release of BORIS that fixed this issue will be available in few days.
Thank you for your collaboration

[maxmcarroll]

Fantastic, thank you for taking a look! Will GitHub notify me when the new release of BORIS is available?

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On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 5:15 PM Olivier Friard ***@***.***> wrote: The issue is due to a bug in the wave module for version of Python < 3.12. I must switch from Python 3.11 to 3.12 for the Windows deployment, I think that a new release of BORIS that fixed this issue will be available in few days. Thank you for your collaboration — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#760 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/BJPY5JV3OVGA43A2BBCPMZDZKW3NVAVCNFSM6AAAAABKAF3KKSVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDEMBZGU3DSMJUGY> . You are receiving this because you authored the thread.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[olivierfriard]

I will let you know, please be a little bit patient.

On Friday, July 5, 2024, maxmcarroll ***@***.***> wrote: Fantastic, thank you for taking a look! Will GitHub notify me when the new release of BORIS is available? On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 5:15 PM Olivier Friard ***@***.***> wrote: > The issue is due to a bug in the wave module for version of Python <

3.12.

> I must switch from Python 3.11 to 3.12 for the Windows deployment, I

think

> that a new release of BORIS that fixed this issue will be available in

few

> days. > Thank you for your collaboration > > — > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <

#760 (comment)>,

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[olivierfriard]

Hi,
I updated the v. 8.27.1 with Python 3.12 (see https://www.boris.unito.it/download/)
Please try and let me know and the issue is fixed.

[maxmcarroll]

Hello Mr. Friard, BORIS was able to successfully generate the waveform and spectrogram! Thank you so much for addressing this bug; I'll send you a postcard once I get a chance. However, I had a question on observations from media. We have to use separate audio and video files because our cameras do not possess high-frequency audio that can capture bat calls. When creating a new observation, I must put the high-frequency audio first since BORIS only provides the option to create spectrogram/waveform for the first player. However, BORIS also requires that the longest audio be loaded in the first player. Is there any way around this requirement? Thank you, Max Carroll

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On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 11:04 AM Olivier Friard ***@***.***> wrote: Hi, I updated the v. 8.27.1 with Python 3.12 (see https://www.boris.unito.it/download/) Please try and let me know and the issue is fixed. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#760 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/BJPY5JVR5NX6HR6ZQTG763DZLVEOTAVCNFSM6AAAAABKAF3KKSVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDEMRQG42TIMBRGQ> . You are receiving this because you authored the thread.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[olivierfriard]

Hi,
I will add the possibility to generate the spectrogram/waveform from an arbitrary player in a future version.

[maxmcarroll]

Great, thank you for the update. Have a nice weekend!

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On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 6:14 AM Olivier Friard ***@***.***> wrote: Hi, I will add the possibility to generate the spectrogram/waveform from an arbitrary player in a future version. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#760 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/BJPY5JRWOCX6FYTVIWL2CKDZSMJH7AVCNFSM6AAAAABKAF3KKSVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDEOJYGQ4TGNRZGY> . You are receiving this because you authored the thread.Message ID: ***@***.***>