Guillotine Fist Damage Issue

Question

Guillotine Fist Damage Issue

Closed this issue a month ago · 7 comments

Haydrich commented a month ago

rAthena Hash

master

Client Date

20230905

Server Mode

Renewal

Result

The damage of the skill depending on kRO / rA
I tried without Raising Dragon skill first to know the damage with 5 sphere spirit only

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kRO result was 766k but rA 1.2m
Then tried with Raising Dragon to get the final result of 15 sphere spirit

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kRO result was 1.7m but rA 2.6m

Notes:

Noticed that my HP/SP in rA when i used Raising Dragon not same as kRO
In rA Guillotine Fist not reduced by Neutral reduction cards, EX: Raydric Card/ Deviling Card or any relative cards

Relevant Log Output

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Expected Result

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How to Reproduce

Try Guillotine Fist

Official Information

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Modifications that may affect results

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Answer 1 · 2024-05-26T11:19:05.000Z

Can you add which monster ID this Barricade has (maybe also position in kRO to make sure we got the correct one)?

Answer 2 · 2024-05-26T11:40:30.000Z

Barricade ID is 21065 and the location in kRO tra_fild 116 159

Answer 3 · 2024-05-26T13:15:12.000Z

@Haydrich Can you also get the damage of a few normal attacks from kRO? Just to make sure the base damage isn't off already.

Answer 4 · 2024-05-26T13:37:46.000Z

@Haydrich Can you also get the damage of a few normal attacks from kRO? Just to make sure the base damage isn't off already.

Can you dm me in Discord for more information?
haydrich

Answer 5 · 2024-05-26T18:16:04.000Z

Test results:
Trans Sura with the following stats

BaseLevel 174
JobLevel 59
SP 1877

Iron Hand 10
Guillotine Fist 5

vs. Barricade 21065: 73322

vs. Cardinal

Ungeared - 73195
With Mantle - 73158

vs. Merchant 59/47, all base stats 1
Ungeared - 73340
15% Neutral Resist Hood - 73336

Mace equipped:
Ungeared - 84684
15% Neutral Resist Hood - 83311

Conclusions:

The fixed +1000 damage bonus should be applied after the ratio and now before it
Guillotine Fist does not IgnoreDEF in renewal but it uses the simple HardDEF+SoftDEF reduction formula like Dragon Breath, Cannon skills and Grand Cross
Guillotine Fist does ignore Res

This also shows that neutral damage reduction only applies to weapon damage but not to status damage, but that part is already working in rAthena.

Answer 6 · 2024-05-27T14:23:55.000Z

Also ran tests on Counter Slash which is affected by this fix:

Shadow Cross 245/51

Only Knife[3] equipped.

Counter Slash vs. Zombie:
Level 10 - 92437-92478
Level 10 +12 Agi - 92968-93010
Level 1 - 31424-31438

Conclusion:

Each Agi increases skill ratio by 2%
Job level adds 280% (70*4%) to skill ratio if you are 4th job, regardless of your 4th job level
There no bonus to base damage, neither before nor after skillratio

Answer 7 · 2024-05-28T17:48:09.000Z

Shield Press is also affected by this change.

Royal Guard 99/50

Skill Level 1 vs. Dummy 21064:

Skill Level 2 vs. Dummy 21064:

vit 110
Shield Press level 1
35/hit shield sometimes miss
57/hit +1 shield sometimes 22/hit
79/hit +2 shield sometimes 44/hit
145/hit +5 shield sometimes 110/hit (Bearbeitet)

vit 110
Shield Press level 2
62/hit shield sometimes miss
84/hit +1 shield sometimes 22/hit
106/hit +2 shield sometimes 44/hit
172/hit +5 shield sometimes 110/hit

str 50
vit 110
Shield Press lv 1
shield 105x5
+1 shield 127x5
+2 shield 149x5
+5 shield 215x5