sile-typesetter/sile

Bibliography: support CSL?

Omikhleia opened this issue · 5 comments

Omikhleia commented

Some of the issues regarding bibliographies (eg. #2027, #2049) are hampered by the fact that SILE has it's own-made Chicago style implementation. I know of at least one similar attempt at implementing another style on the same grounds (@jodros 's ABNT)

Question 1. What would be SILE's position on deprecating these hand-made styles, and switch to CSL?

Question 2. Would SILE be ok with its own implementation of (a decent subset) of CSL in Lua?

  • CSL is not that hard of a schema (compared, say, to USX and all its implications (#1398)...
  • The alternative is to use an existing CSL processor (but it is not that easier to hook back into SILE and it's far less fun IMHO)
Omikhleia commented

Note on license issue: CSL local and styles files are CC-BY-SA.
AKAIK, it means we can't just vendor them with SILE (MIT) -- but submodules, or a build dependency, could be acceptable.

jodros commented

I know of at least one similar attempt at implementing another style on the same grounds (@jodros 's ABNT)

That file is only a draft, since I din't understand well how to use...

BTW I'm glad to see that a refactor of bibliography is underway, I hope I can help.

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Omikhleia commented

Self-assigning: I'm experimenting a CSL engine (the 80% easy are reached, the question is how to get the 20% difficult right, lol).
(Just for you to know -- It might take a bit of time, and the points raised above are valid however this goes)

Omikhleia commented

Teaser.

Our legacy Chicago style vs. CSL "author-date" Chicago style for the exact same bibtex entry...

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Omikhleia commented

Teaser no. 2

Same bibtex entry, but French CSL locale and French "author-date" Chicago CSL style. Yay, honoring gender for the ordinals :)

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