space-wizards/space-station-14

Winter Coats continue to kill you with heat damage long after a fire is extinguished

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Description

If you ignite while wearing a winter coat, even if you extinguish the flame you will still continue to take large amounts of heat damage due to the coat preventing you from cooling down.

I would think clothing would protect you from burning rather than being a lethal combination. It's unintuitive and its heat retention should only turn on when you're below a temperature that hurts the player.

Reproduction

wear winter coat

burn(in my example I touched the corner of an atmos burn chamber)

immediately take a few seconds to extinguish

continue to cook due to coat heat retention

crit

continue to take heat damage

reach medbay with 800 burn damage for a fire that was extinguished minutes ago

The same thing happens if you get into a spaced corridor, start freezing to death, and then put on a winter coat in an attempt to stave off further cold damage

Aisu9 commented

no issues. winter coat now make it easier to gain temperature and harder to lose temperature, they no longer modifier temperature thresholds

This isn't super intuitive, yeah. I've seen a lot of people ash - or get very close to ashing - because nobody around them connected the dots that their winter coat might be preventing them from cooling down.
I think fully disabling the insulation at high temperatures would be a bit extreme - in part because it'd just make them a safe way to avoid getting cold, instead of a potential risk in event of a gas fire - but it could benefit from being toned down a little. It feels odd that a single, perfectly normal coat can make the difference between being readily revivable, and fully ashing.
I mean, grain of salt since I'm not a contrib, but that's my opinion on the matter.

no issues. winter coat now make it easier to gain temperature and harder to lose temperature, they no longer modifier temperature thresholds

that’s not how physics work

Typically things stop burning when the fire gets put out and typically fires burn you from the outside not the inside so insulation should reduce burn damage not increase and preserve it

Aisu9 commented

no issues. winter coat now make it easier to gain temperature and harder to lose temperature, they no longer modifier temperature thresholds

that’s not how physics work

Typically things stop burning when the fire gets put out and typically fires burn you from the outside not the inside so insulation should reduce burn damage not increase and preserve it

so... the fire damage don't come out of nowhere! fire actively increase your temperature to an unglodly high, hotter than the sun. no one thought it would be wise to add a cap to how much being on fire raise your temperature. by keeping the sun heat in it is actively killing you.

Aisu9 commented

and it's not as it make it easier to gain temperate, but just overall making it harder to escape, insulation is working as expected. if an external source come to heat someone wearing a winter jacket it will "slowly" heat them up but fire stack and burning is such a shit show that need fixing for a few months now

no issues. winter coat now make it easier to gain temperature and harder to lose temperature, they no longer modifier temperature thresholds

that’s not how physics work

Typically things stop burning when the fire gets put out and typically fires burn you from the outside not the inside so insulation should reduce burn damage not increase and preserve it

so... the fire damage don't come out of nowhere! fire actively increase your temperature to an unglodly high, hotter than the sun. no one thought it would be wise to add a cap to how much being on fire raise your temperature. by keeping the sun heat in it is actively killing you.

We are talking about a cloth jacket that doesn't even cover the whole body, not a freakin Brazen Bull torture device. This is undeniably a bug.

If it's that ungodly hot you should melt because it's hot, not because you're wearing a damn coat.

The coat should not be the difference between 100 damage and 800 damage.