Add stylistic alternate for 19th century F clef
MrFuzzywump opened this issue · 20 comments
There are two symbols that I cannot find in SMuFL, those are what (I think) are called “Before 1840 C and F clefs”, before 1840 versions of C and F clefs.
The C clef appearance is already included in SMuFL (it's U+E060, cClefSquare in the Clefs category).
But the F clef appearance is not currently included, so that's something we could add in future.
I found another example of the "Before 1840 C and F clefs" (1835):
I found another example of the "Before 1840 F clef" (1839)
They're everywhere. The question is whether this is a separate glyph or a different font? Because just about everything looks different in 19th century publications.
This is the bass clef from before 1840 (year < 1840). This is a stylistic alternate. Just like the "Before 1840 C clef" I mentioned earlier.
I also found another score that has the "Before 1840 C and F clefs" (1791):
I also found another score that has the "Before 1840 C and F clefs" (1795):
I also found another score that has the "Before 1840 C and F clefs" (1787):
I also found another score that has the "Before 1840 C and F clefs" (1785):
I also found another score that has the "Before 1840 C and F clefs" (1784):
I based mine on the common time symbol:
What would you base the "Before 1840 F clef" on?
The "Before 1840 F clef" was used before 1840, hence the name, and in the 18th century.
I have disagreement on whether it's 18th century or 19th century
We have disagreement on whether it's 18th century or 19th century
I would call it simply earlyModernFClef since we have disagreement on whether it's 18th century or 19th century and that term mostly covers either.
I also found another score that has the "Before 1840 C and F clefs" (1800):
Again, it seems to me that this is a different font, not a different meaning. Nearly every symbol on the page looks different. I don't know if we want to include it in smufl except perhaps the bass clef as a stylistic alternate. You don't need to post more examples: I'm sure Daniel is well aware that the clef is different.
You'll also find the glyphs in Band parts and hymnals up to 1920 or even 1930.
I also found another score that has the "Before 1840 F clef" (1794):
The C clef appearance is already included in SMuFL (it's U+E060,
cClefSquarein the Clefs category).But the F clef appearance is not currently included, so that's something we could add in future.
MuseScore refers to the C clef appearance as "C clef, H shape (19th century)"
@MrFuzzywump -- it has been requested several times that you not continue to add more examples of these well known stylistic alternates to this issue. Locking for now. Any owner can unlock.