macOS 13.4 issues
zearp opened this issue · 34 comments
Seems the macOS 13.4 update introduces some issues when using Intel bluetooth/wireless. Bluetooth is completely broken and the Intel wifi kext is preventing proper sleep. Sleep works fine with the Intel kexts disabled but then you have no working bluetooth and wireless.
There are no issues if you disabled Intel bt/wifi and use a natively supported Apple card. I've tested both stock and modded. I'll update here if I find any solutions. For now it seems best to stay on 13.3.x if you rely on Intel bluetooth/wireless and want working sleep without disabling anything.
We'll need to wait for fixes for these issues upstream, they've already been reported by people so the developers are aware.
https://github.com/acidanthera/BrcmPatchRAM
https://github.com/OpenIntelWireless/itlwm
https://github.com/OpenIntelWireless/IntelBluetoothFirmware
Awesome, glad to know. I will still do a full backup before updating. I use the natively (hopefully still) supported BCM94360CS2 so I guess I'm fine?
I've seen on the new OCLP (I know it's for real Macs) that they have a patch for missing hardware, because the system detects that something is missing and throttles the CPU or does some other limitation? I hope it's not happening to us.
Having an up to date bootable backup with a working EFI is something I would highly recommend indeed!
Also you could make a bootable clone and test updates in there and if it works either apply the updates again to the main OS or clone the updated backup back.
I'm not sure what you mean about OCLP and cpu stuff. Our 8th gen Intel is supported natively and that won't change soon. I also would not change SMBIOS to anything not 8th gen Intel as it does many things including frequencies and such. It is important the SMBIOS matches our platform.
It is possible to use OCLP to force things but it's far from ideal to do that needlessly. For example I tried it on an older Mac and while Ventura works, things like power management are far from ideal as the SMBIOS is of a much newer platform.
Bluetooth/wireless combo cards that are supported natively will work until Apple removes support and even if they do they usually don't fully remove it and it is possible to patch it back in like I did for the older Apple cards here:
https://github.com/zearp/Nucintosh/blob/master/EFI/OC/config.plist#L550-L582
This no longer works on Ventura for this card but worked fine with Big Sur. It changes the model number in the driver so the driver loads even when you use an SMBIOS that doesn't enable support for that card out of the box.
Great piece of info, thank you. Cloning saved my @$$ so many times.
The SMBIOS stays, of course. I was just curious if there were any benchmark hits after this update.
Things are looking good! The latest commits suggest the delays on Ventura when using Intel wireless have been/are being addressed. I will compile a new version and commit it to the repo tonight after testing.
Great piece of info, thank you. Cloning saved my @$$ so many times.
Same here! I really like macOS in that regard, it is easy to clone and boot into the clones. Not so easy with Linux or Windows. macOS also doesn't care what it boots from. On my MacBooks I can boot from sd cards if I wanted to have a bad time 😅
I can confirm the wireless connection delay has been fixed upstream and wifi connects a lot faster 🥳
Updated kext is here: https://github.com/zearp/Nucintosh/blob/master/Stuff/AirportItlwm.kext-Ventura.zip
No news on the bluetooth front as of yet. Only some work arounds I rather not apply but I'll test them today or tomorrow and see if we can implement it if no progress is made upstream.
I wasn't able to pair any devices using bluetooth both new and previously paired devices do not connect. I'll do some more testing soon.
As a work around I'm using some 99 cent bluetooth 4.0 dongles I got a dozen of while ago from eBay. They can be identified by white lettering saying CSR 4.0 on the plastic.
Bus 020 Device 004: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)
They work out of the box, I also seen them on Amazon for about 2-5 euro. They also have newer 5.0 ones but I haven't tested those so I'm not sure if they work natively.
For the dongle to work properly the usb port kext must be edited; HS07 needs to be removed and bluetooth in the bios should be disabled. Also BlueToolFixup.kext should be enabled and IntelBluetoothFirmware.kext should be disabled in the OpenCore config file.
Great piece of info, thank you. Cloning saved my @$$ so many times.
Same here! I really like macOS in that regard, it is easy to clone and boot into the clones. Not so easy with Linux or Windows. macOS also doesn't care what it boots from. On my MacBooks I can boot from sd cards if I wanted to have a bad time 😅
Mind me asking what do you clone with? Acronis, Macrium, Clonezilla, dd? Sorry to side-step here.
SuperDuper! as its free to use and works great. Just updating an existing backup is where you have to pay but creating a brand new bootable clone is free. Just make a clone then copy the EFI to it and you're good to go. You can also boot into Time Machine backups from OpenCore.
I can confirm the wireless connection delay has been fixed upstream and wifi connects a lot faster partying_face
Updated kext is here: https://github.com/zearp/Nucintosh/blob/master/Stuff/AirportItlwm.kext-Ventura.zip
No news on the bluetooth front as of yet. Only some work arounds I rather not apply but I'll test them today or tomorrow and see if we can implement it if no progress is made upstream.
how about bluetooth? my bluetooth can't active. im fresh install with macos ventura 13.4
@aacassandra Stated in the first post:
Bluetooth is completely broken and the Intel wifi kext is preventing proper sleep.
hi @zearp , what do you know?, where i can download ventura 13.3 and i can create bootable usb from linux.
Download any macOS version with this: https://github.com/corpnewt/gibMacOS
You can not create full installers on any OS other than macOS, you can only create bootable internet installers that will download the 12GB installer during install. I've never did a recovery install nor do I want to support those. Making it in macOS using the official tool is best and you can run a basic macOS in a (K)VM easily to do so.
https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Install-Guide/installer-guide/linux-install.html
I wasn't able to pair any devices using bluetooth both new and previously paired devices do not connect. I'll do some more testing soon.
As a work around I'm using some 99 cent bluetooth 4.0 dongles I got a dozen of while ago from eBay. They can be identified by white lettering saying CSR 4.0 on the plastic.
Bus 020 Device 004: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)They work out of the box, I also seen them on Amazon for about 2-5 euro. They also have newer 5.0 ones but I haven't tested those so I'm not sure if they work natively.
For the dongle to work properly the usb port kext must be edited; HS07 needs to be removed and bluetooth in the bios should be disabled. Also
BlueToolFixup.kextshould be enabled andIntelBluetoothFirmware.kextshould be disabled in the OpenCore config file.
First, thanks a lot for sharing your EFI stuff and helpful guides :)
I tried your workaround (and many other options) but had no success getting BT with two dongles (CSR, BCM20702A0) to work using your latest EFI release.
Do you have any advice?
Got the internal BT running with this FW and this BlueToolFixup.kext.
Got the internal BT running with this FW and this BlueToolFixup.kext.
does it work for you? im still using ventura 13.3.1 hehe
Yeah, in my case it also works for Ventura 13.4.
Got the internal BT running with this FW and this BlueToolFixup.kext.
Oh so we may just need to update the firmware. That kext has all the firmware so I will compile from source with only the firmware we need. I'll test it first and if it works I'll push out a new release hopefully tonight or tomorrow. I'm sure other kexts also have had updates and hopefully 13.4 and 14.x fixes.
I've quickly spun up a test EFI and pushed the newly compiled stuff to the repo. This also includes some new commits to the Intel wifi driver but I don't know if it fixes anything for 14.x, the slow AP connection/scan times on Ventura and earlier were solved in the current version.
Please test and let me know!
I've quickly spun up a test EFI and pushed the newly compiled stuff to the repo. This also includes some new commits to the Intel wifi driver but I don't know if it fixes anything for 14.x, the slow AP connection/scan times on Ventura and earlier were solved in the current version.
Please test and let me know!
Quick test: WiFi and BT work ;)
Can report the same! Wireless was a bit weird at first when it said my wifi was hidden but it works fine now!
Pairing devices is still a bit unpredictable. Let's hope some more fixes appear soon.
I have updated to 13.4.1 on June 24, 2023 and everything seems to be working fine. I do have the original WiFi/BT card though. If anything pops up, I will update this comment.
Edit July 3, 2023, some things started to show up...
When the hackintosh goes to sleep now, it sends a shockwave through the audio jack and pops the speakers extremely loud. Because of that, it wakes up immediately, and then a few minutes later goes to proper sleep. I had to enable the option "Prevent the automatic sleeping when the display is off", but then of course, no sleep unless I turn off the speakers.
Some file permissions seem to have gotten screwed up, locate database no longer lists my files from the home folder. I've gone through countless options to get this to work again.
Also, this has happened before, but whenever I populate all USB ports, the mouse and keyboard grind to an everlasting lag. However, a similar situation happened to me on an actual Mac Mini I was fixing for someone, so I don't know what's that about.
Perhaps a clean install instead of the update would've been better... 😪
I also noticed some usb weirdness including on my real Macs, it is most likely Apple has changed something in the underlaying drivers.
I've updated everything to the latest available versions, hopefully this will fix some of the issues. It would be a bit of a downer if the recent macOS updates are breaking this pretty much golden EFI.
https://github.com/zearp/Nucintosh/releases/download/v4.4/EFI_04072023.zip
Please try and let me know if it made things better, especially if you're using Intel bt/wifi. I don't notice any difference myself but I mainly have NUCs with Broadcom bt/wifi cards.
Clean install of 13.4.1 on a stock NUC went perfectly fine. Everything works so it seems all the issues have been sorted. I'll keep an eye on the usb issues. To me it seems as if the power delivery or something has changed a bit. As I test I connected a bunch of usb mice and keyboard and some just turned off. Seemingly not getting enough power. I don't know enough about the whole usb port thing but I do know it does (try) to control power delivery. I also admit that on my MacBook this is an issue sometimes where plugging in a usb device sometimes stops others. Surely not going above the 15 port limit so my best guess would be power.
Other than the weird usb issues that seem to pop up sometimes all is good on the 13.x front now for both stock and NUCs with Broadcom. Let's hope Sonoma will be smooth sailing once these initial driver issues and such have been fixed. I don't think Apple will officially support Coffee Lake on 15.x macOS but who knows!
What is funny is that this Microsoft mouse I use for testing only shows its remaining battery when using Intel bluetooth, whilst the natively supported Broadcom bluetooth doesn't show it.
Edit: it might be a Bluetooth version thing where my Broadcoms have an older version which maybe doesn't support reporting battery levels... A guess but it makes sense!
If you have any weird issues after updating consider making a backup (Time Machine or clone) and then do a clean install formatting the disk and use the migration tool to restore all your settings and apps. Using the full installer to install on top of an existing install can also cure many issues. You won't lose any apps or settings. Resetting NVRAM can't hurt as well. Funnily these also apply to real Macs lol.
I noted everything you've said. It's likely I won't do a clean install because it's my main hackintosh and I only have one. No time to re-configure everything. I should have some time this coming week to fiddle around, I will reset NVRAM and if that doesn't do anything, I'll run the install on top of the existing one. I'm just super glad that someone else has noted the USB gremlins.
I realized I may be using an older EFI because it boots super fast and I completely forgot about it. Anyways, I'll do my tests and if I find anything, I'll report.
The battery level reporting situation is somewhat ironic.
It is likely you don't really have to change much in the EFI for it to boot the latest beta 3 but some stuff might not work due to changes in Sonoma, like Intel wireless/bluetooth. The latest release EFI works 100% now on both Ventura and Sonoma on stock NUCs. So it is still a "golden" EFI in my eyes.
I remember having similar usb weirdness on the Dell machines but it went away as mysteriously as it started. That was a few years ago but it had an issue where some devices would be ejected/mounted over and over and over. I haven't found a way to reproduce the usb weirdness but my guess is that it has something to do with power delivery which can be slightly configured in an acpi patch (SSDT-EC-USBX.aml).
Return (Package (0x08)
{
"kUSBSleepPowerSupply",
0x13EC,
"kUSBSleepPortCurrentLimit",
0x0834,
"kUSBWakePowerSupply",
0x13EC,
"kUSBWakePortCurrentLimit",
0x0834
})
This is what we use now, which are the default recommended values from the Dortania guide. The thing is that I can't reproduce it so experimenting with these values is kind of useless until we can trigger the usb weirdness reliably. I will see if there's some kind of way to get whatever values Linux or Windows uses and use those. Then again I could be wrong the usb stuff is not caused by a power issue. It is the best guess I got right now.
I see, I will use the latest one you released.
I thought I was using the old one,
but I did actually update to a newer version. I just have to plug in my values and drop Intel stuff. Do you suggest I use the ACPI patch you mentioned?
That ACPI patch is already included as it's required. I was just speculating about the usb cause and possible solution of the usb issues that can't seem to be reproduced.
OK. The USB issues usually occurred to me when all of the ports were populated.
one question regarding sleep - I updated to Bios 94 some weeks ago.
Post that update display won't turn on anymore, but NUC is running.
It was working without any issues before, not sure if I updated the EFI around that as well but I think not.
The HDMI patch was also installed before, something seems to got broke.
Not sure how this can be retrieved via logs. If not waking up I've to unplug power to make it work again
@hac-mac Nothing has changed in the EFI regarding that in a very long time. Usually turning force-online on fixes these things but thats already enabled by default.
https://github.com/zearp/Nucintosh/blob/master/EFI/OC/config.plist#L197-L198C13
Updating the BIOS is something I stopped doing once I figured out Intel just disabled our ability to undervolt and we can't turn it back on even when force downgrading the BIOS. I guess it's part of the ME and that can't be downgraded. So in a way Intel took a function away that kept my NUCs cooler and using less energy. Thank you Intel for not giving us any options to re-enable undervolting. I don't think this is caused by BIOS though, more people would've ran into the same issue.
Good luck!