Open Cities Classic + Unique Landscapes + Lost Spire Cleaned Up scribes

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Open Cities Classic + Unique Landscapes + Lost Spire Cleaned Up scribes

arosenow opened this issue a year ago · 18 comments

Hi,
The current sort order places
ULM OpenCitiesClassic-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp
before
OCC + Lost Spires + Cleaned Up Scribe.esp
The latter undoes some fixes to the East gate area and causes the water to be missing

Answer 1 · 2023-08-13T08:30:20.000Z

Can you please provide links to where you downloaded those plugins?

Answer 2 · 2023-08-13T08:47:56.000Z

Please find the links to the installed mods below:
https://www.afkmods.com/index.php?/files/file/253-open-cities-classic/
https://www.afkmods.com/index.php?/files/file/2371-open-cities-patch-collection-for-oblivion/
https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/12997
https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/50146
https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/19370

Answer 3 · 2023-08-13T08:51:00.000Z

The cells that are impacted are just outside cheydinhal east gate which is an error that can be observed if you played with Open Cities Classic + Unique landscapes without a patch

Answer 4 · 2023-09-17T21:25:55.000Z

I'm not seeing any conflict in xEdit between ULM OpenCitiesClassic-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp and OCC + Lost Spires + Cleaned Up Scribe.esp.

Answer 5 · 2023-09-17T21:43:24.000Z

Odd, maybe one has an unclean edits because depending on the order I load them (cleaned up scribe second) it reverts to the pre patch behaviour for open cities + unique landscapes

Answer 6 · 2023-09-17T22:01:20.000Z

Odd, maybe one has an unclean edits because depending on the order I load them (cleaned up scribe second) it reverts to the pre patch behaviour for open cities + unique landscapes

Would you mind posting your load order?

Answer 7 · 2023-09-17T22:08:56.000Z

I run loot and then I swap those 2 mods that appear to be conflicting each time and it fixes the issues with OCC+UL 0 0 Oblivion.esm 1 1 Jog_X_Mod.esm 2 2 Cobl Main.esm 3 3 Open Cities Resources.esm 4 4 Hemingweys Capes Improved.esm 5 5 NNWAEMaster.esm 6 6 CM Partners.esm 7 7 Knights - Revelation.esm 8 8 Cobl Glue.esp 9 9 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp 10 a UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp 11 b Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 12 c DLCShiveringIsles.esp 13 d Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp 14 e Cobl Si.esp 15 f DLCHorseArmor.esp 16 10 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp 17 11 DLCOrrery.esp 18 12 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp 19 13 DLCVileLair.esp 20 14 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp 21 15 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 22 16 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp 23 17 DLCSpellTomes.esp 24 18 DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp 25 19 DLCThievesDen.esp 26 1a DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp 27 1b DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp 28 1c DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 29 1d DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp 30 1e DLCFrostcrag.esp 31 1f DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp 32 20 OCOD+FrostcragSpire Patch.esp 33 21 Knights.esp 34 22 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp 35 23 OCC-KOTN-Patch.esp 36 24 Underwater Blur.esp 37 25 Torch Hotkey.esp 38 26 Climb.esp 39 27 Duke Patricks - Friendship Ring For Companion Detection.esp 40 28 OblivionReloaded.esp 41 29 Spell Delete.esp 42 2a Streamline 3.1.esp 43 2b Dynamic Map.esp 44 2c Tamriel.esp 45 2d Better Dungeons.esp 46 2e ElsweyrAnequina.esp 47 2f TWMP_Valenwood_Elsweyr.esp 48 30 ElsweyrPelletine.esp 49 31 better lights.esp 50 32 Oblivion Scaling Unclusterfucked.esp 51 33 Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp 52 34 Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp 53 35 Balanced NPC Level Cap.esp 54 36 Hemingweys Capes Improved.esp 55 37 Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp 56 38 HeartOftheDead.esp 57 39 LG's Unscaled Enemies.esp 58 3a The Lost Spires.esp 59 3b New Senchal.esp 60 3c Elsweyr Mysteries.esp 61 3d Knights - Revelation.esp 62 3e BHC_Expanded.esp 63 3f Mages Guild Quests.esp 64 40 MannimarcoRevisited.esp 65 41 The Lost Spires - Cleaned Up Scribe.esp 66 42 C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp 67 43 Cliff_PersonalGuildStorageChest.esp 68 44 VaultsofCyrodiil.esp 69 45 Fighters Guild Quests.esp 70 46 mythsandlegends.esp 71 47 300_White Stallion 4.esp 72 48 TOTF.esp 73 49 Secrets Of Angalayond Cey.esp 74 4a NNWAEDungeons-Series2EV.esp 75 4b ReneersContainerMod.esp 76 4c TOTF Delayer.esp 77 4d Better Torches.esp 78 4e PersuasionOverhaul.esp 79 4f Unique Loot Deleveled.esp 80 50 MigLockpicking.esp 81 51 BountyReductionOverTime_standard.esp 82 52 kuerteeCrimeHasWitnesses.esp 83 53 Realistic Arrow Flight.esp 84 54 Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp 85 55 AdvancedWeaponSkillLeveling.esp 86 56 Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp 87 57 TimeEnough.esp 88 58 No Beginning Travel.esp 89 59 CM Partners.esp 90 5a RTT.esp 91 5b Tales of Cyrodiil.esp 92 5c NNWAREAyleidDungeons_Series1EV.esp 93 5d OCC-TOTF-Patch.esp 94 5e OCC-RTTv3 Patch.esp 95 5f ElsweyrC&CBlackwoodPatch.esp 96 60 NNWARE06-RhyeliaEmeroEV.esp 97 61 Jail Break Escape Routes.esp 98 62 No Anachronistic MQ Comments.esp 99 63 Rebalanced and Unleveled QGR.esp 100 64 Immersive Character and Dialogue Expansion.esp 101 65 Snowdale - Fighters Guild Quests Patch.esp 102 66 ImprovedSigns.esp 103 67 Extended Dialogue.esp 104 68 Enhanced Grabbing.esp 105 69 Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.esp 106 6a KW-AlliesPlayNicer.esp 107 6b Syc_LongerDaysShorterNights.esp 108 6c LightSpellWhiteDimmer.esp 109 6d NoStealFromYourFactions.esp 110 6e Faster Arrows and Spells.esp 111 6f LongerUnconscious.esp 112 70 No Backwards Running.esp 113 71 Balanced Creatures - DLC.esp OCO_Eyes_Fix.esp 114 72 Balanced Unleveled Rewards - Complete.esp 115 73 Weapon Improvement Project.esp 116 74 Balanced Creatures.esp 117 75 Friendlier Summons.esp 118 76 Loading Area Begone.esp 119 77 Balanced NPC Level Cap - DLC Patches.esp 120 78 lSkillBasedHarvestChance.esp 121 79 OSU UOP Patch.esp 122 7a Mannimarco Revisited Rebalance.esp 123 7b Safe Archmage Storage-2135.esp 124 7c MannimarcoRevisited UOP Patch.esp 125 7d DelayThoseDLCs.esp 126 7e Quest NPCs Run.esp 127 7f SupremeMagickaLite.esp 128 80 Near Miss Alerts.esp 129 81 Ronyns Realistic and Fun Acrobatics-8494.esp 130 82 dizzySafeSave.esp 131 83 P1DkeyChain.esp 132 84 Finger of the Mountain Fix-3152.esp 133 85 HOD_delayer.esp 134 86 DD_ProximitySneakPenalty.esp 135 87 SB_WeaponDropFix.esp 136 88 Better Dungeons - Balance Patch.esp LIPTemplate.esp OCO DLC Faces.esp 137 89 GalerionUnarmoredAcrobatics.esp 138 8a JumpModifier.esp 139 8b aATRLeveling.esp 140 8c stickierenemytargeting.esp 141 8d aATRRetroStats.esp 142 8e Unique Landscapes.esp 143 8f Rathunas01.esp 144 90 ULM HeartoftheDead-ArriusCreek patch.esp 145 91 ULE MythsAndLegends2-EasternPeaks patch.esp 146 92 ULM TalesFromElsweyr-BravilBarrowfields patch.esp 147 93 ULE TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp 148 94 ULE Anequina-FallenleafEverglade patch.esp 149 95 ULE AyleidRuinsExpanded-JerallGlacier patch.esp 150 96 ULE UnofficialOblivionPatch-CorboloRiver patch.esp 151 97 Open Cities New Sheoth.esp 152 98 Open Cities Outer Districts.esp 153 99 Open Cities Classic.esp 154 9a OCC + Lost Spires + Cleaned Up Scribe.esp 155 9b ULM OpenCitiesClassic-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp 156 9c Bashed Patch, 0.esp 157 9d kuerteeCleanUp.esp

Answer 8 · 2023-09-17T22:38:06.000Z

ULM OpenCitiesClassic-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp does need C.Regions and C.Water tags.

Water height change won't show up as a conflict.

You can test by adding C.Regions and C.Water tags to ULM OpenCitiesClassic-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp.
And then place ULM OpenCitiesClassic-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp before OCC + Lost Spires + Cleaned Up Scribe.esp.

Answer 9 · 2023-09-17T22:41:06.000Z

Change carried forward when tag is added, that was probably the issue.
UL and OCC both have C.Water tags, so OCC reverts the change, which means we need to tag the patch.

Edit:
Better screenshot

Answer 10 · 2023-09-17T22:49:54.000Z

I added those tags and reran loot, if i don't change the order of those 2 plugins this is what i see. [image: image.png]

Answer 11 · 2023-09-17T22:58:45.000Z

I added those tags and reran loot, if i don't change the order of those 2 plugins this is what i see. [image: image.png]

Did you remake the bashed patch?

Answer 12 · 2023-09-17T23:00:43.000Z

Cheers! I'll try again

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Answer 13 · 2023-09-17T23:05:41.000Z

I regenerated the bash patch, it doesn't appear to be resolving the missing river, I put those tags on the OCC + ULM patch C.Water, C.Region

Answer 14 · 2023-09-17T23:28:43.000Z

So like this?

Answer 15 · 2023-09-17T23:41:04.000Z

[image: image.png]

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Answer 16 · 2023-09-18T13:39:32.000Z

[image: image.png]

I can't view those images.

Answer 17 · 2023-09-18T20:36:11.000Z

They were pictures from bash confirming those tags coming from a user list as I added them in loot

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